Reply by gurmit singh Sep 4
Amarjit
ji
You are absolutely right in equating Delta level with turia awastha.
These awasthas are experienced during our being
within the body and hence everything within us is interconnected. The spiritual
level affects the mental ;the mental level emotional
level ; and the emotional level physical.There is
reverse direction of above also from physical to spiritual.
Here is a correspondence table which I have been researching for bringing
clarity to our relationship with shabad guru for my blog post.
I have not yet finalised this table.
This is an initial conception and may Guru get it refined further.
gurmit
Reply by gurmit singh Sep 4
As the image above has come in very small so i have attached the image aswell
as word doc. here.
Any sugestions are welcome.
gurmit
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Reply by Amrjit Singh Bandeshe
Sep 4
Gurmit Veer Ji
Many thanks for the excellent table - both attached versions are good ( *.jpg )
and ( *.doc )
I have printed it out for my closer study ...
I saw something similar by Bhai Sahib, Bhai Kirpal Singh of Radio &
TV Malaysia roughly about 10 - 16 years ago. He is an Electrical, and
Electronics ( Radio & TV Engineer ) He is reitired. Probably lives in
If I come across his tabulation, I hope to forward it to you. He also talks
about the EEG and the brain Rhythms. He is a contemporary of Deepak Chopra ...
Once again I am thunderstruck by the similarities in our thoughts, Gurmit ...
!!! :)
Best regards
Amrjit
PS I am emailing you something about Science and Gurbani
after this ... I hope you like it :)
Reply by gurmit singh Sep 4
Thank you Amarjit ji
Will sure like to see any other tabulation.
In this table Surt - Shabad
abhyas is to be added at appropriate place.
There is accompanying opening/refining of chakras is also there but their
placements is to be decided after an intuitive understanding is received.
Path in Gurmat starts from near the Third eye chakra.
The focus point is inside the head and not out near brows.
The other chakras get awakened automatically as the devotee progresses further
thus obviating the need to start from base chakra. Here in lies another
difference in the path from yog mat.
In gurmat the the stage is
from jap to simran to shabad surt abhyas
and thereafter the shabad pulls the consciousness
upward beyond even the sixth chakra opening in the state of union. A state of oneness.
Lets see how it develops further.
gurmit
Permalink Reply by Amrjit Singh Bandeshe
Sep 8
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Gurmit
Jio,
In your 'correspondence' table Surt
- Shabad abhyas
is to be added at appropriate place.
Is the following pungatee useful in that placement,
of Surt-Shabd or Naam
Kelah? ---> As follows [SGGS - Panna 943]:
The potential Divine Power (Shabd, Naam, Holy Life Force) residing inside is the Guru (Guide,
Master) and its authentic experience as a spontaneous feeling in estasy, becomes the Discipleship
implying the potential of there being an "Internal Guru"
:
[SGGS - Panna 943]
... Shabd Guru Surt-Dhun
Cheilaah ...
Amrjit
Reply by Amrjit Singh Bandeshe
Sep 4
Gurmit
Ji
You could enlarge the image by setting its width = 650 instead of = 300 in the
html of the text version of 
thus :
Click on image to view in a pop-up window and larger size.
Amrjit
Reply by gurmit singh Sep 4
Very very thanks Amarjit veerji
In future I will just do that.
gurmit
Reply by Amrjit Singh Bandeshe
Sep 4
See if the tabulation above is of any use to you Gurmit
Ji ( May 1993 ). Click on
image to enlarge to full-page view ...
Amrjit
Reply by gurmit singh Sep 4
Amarjit veerji
This table is quite interesting and depicts some more
things.
It is giving me new ideas.
However the turiya state is given corresponding to
theta level in this table.
Turiya is fourth state. Here there is direct
experience of consciousness.Gurbani explains that the
experience comes from the shabad.
Its placement is to be carefully thought up in accordance with gurbani.
gurmit
Reply by Amrjit Singh Bandeshe
Sep 6
Veer Gurmit Ji
I understand. Please use what is helpful to you. That which
corroborates your placement thoughts or enhances them.
I'll try to read and investigate his writings ( Bhai Sahib Bhai Kirpal Singh Ji - d.o.b.= 16th Jan 1921) to see if there is a salient reason
why he placed the Turiya state at the Theta level ...
otherwise I agree with you that it should be at the Delta Level, as originally
inferred in my post above !
I don't have a good, clear grasp of the "Shabd
Guru" at this point in time, though ... will be
grateful if you could help here, in any way.
Also if you ( or our other members - Bhai Santokh, for instance ) could say something about Rajo Gun, Tamo Gun and Sato Gun,
as requested above by ToniJi as well ... will be
wonderful ...
Best regards
Amrjit