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Criticism of Wikipedia
Part 1 and 2
A review of it's
bias, and it's censorship of verifiable content - for media studies
students, and sociology and history students.
The Da Costa's
Syndrome Article
Deleted from
Wikipedia and later posted on this webpage here on 30-12-08
Over the past few years
several friends of mine informed me of an online encyclopedia
that was open to receiving new information from all members of
society about all topics so that it became a more comprehensive
source of knowledge than the previous print versions, so I joined
up with a code identity of Posturewriter and started adding to
it, and continued to do so between 2007 and early 2009. During
that time I found myself being subjected to a seemingly endless
series of rules and regulations, called policies, that were oppressively
restrictive about who could or could not add information, and
what they could or could not discuss. Virtually everything that
I added was deleted, on every topic, until I found myself confined
to the history section of a medical topic called Da Costa's syndrome.
95% of the criticisms
came from two main editors who accused me of violating more than
a dozen rules and guidelines, and insulted me at every opportunity
by saying that my contributions were "nonsense" and
that my suggestions were "stupid", and that all of
the references that I used to verify the information (in the
history section) were "unreliable" and "out-of-date".
My response to them is
that they are supposed to use policy to ensure that reliable
information is added to Wikipedia in a manner that ensures that
contributions are derived from ALL reliable sources in order
to represent ALL available information to ensure a neutral point
of view, but they were using policy as excuses for deleting verifiable
facts to leave only the information that supported their own
point of view.
Here
is a comment by an independent editor about the article that
I produced for Wikipedia
"To be honest, in my opinion, it's actually a lot better and far more detailed than the one that is currently up and I can't find anything
which is COI, unsourced
(97 different sources quoted!!), or biased" . . . AvnjayTalk 10:51, 5 October 2008
here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:WhatamIdoing/Archive_2#Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment.2FPosturewriter
. . .See also here, and
note that there were actually 97 "links" to 24 references
at that stage, and I have since increased that by providing 400
lnks to 60 references here
Here
is what another editor said about my critics
"I am now
quickly getting the idea that this COI complaint against Posturewriter
has one reason only: to get the opposition against your own pov
out of the way. Guido den Broeder (talk) 07:23, 21 May 2008 (UTC)" here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard/Archive_24#Da_Costa.27s_syndrome_take_.232
I was banned from
Wikipedia in January 2009, and since then have been through my
notes on the experience and have identified particular issues
and discussed them one at a time, or in some cases have grouped
the essays on common issues together, so there will be some repetition,
but it will show the type of problems that members of the public
are likely to encounter, especially if they contribute to topics
that involve controversy.
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The
Posture Theory Home Page
DaCosta's syndrome affects 2-4%
of the population, and is easy to diagnose, but is nowadays mixed
in with the chronic fatigue group of ailments. 150 years of heated controversies
are still there, as is evident
from the strenuous attempts of some wikipedia editors to block
my contributions.
Criticism of Wikipedia (Part
2)
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A
FEW BASIC FACTS BEFORE YOU READ ANYTHING
Da Costa's syndrome is common in civilian
life, and it can be genetic or run in families, and two thirds
of the patients are women, and some were former sportsmen and
athletes. Less than 1% would have been to war, and most of the
patients who developed the condition during war already had minor
symptoms before enlisting, and some were volunteers. According
to J.M.DaCosta's original research paper the cause was excessive
physical exertion, particularly excessive marching in 34.5% of
cases, which was the largest group. It was more likely to develop
if the person was marching long distances while being poorly
fed and suffering from a viral infection. My two critics were
trying to argue that it is a 'post-war syndrome', and that it
is the result of the fear of exercise, and the fear of battle,
and that there isn't any physiological explanation for the symptoms,
and they give that impression by deleting most of the information
that I provided.
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Introduction
Some years ago I became aware of a medical
condition that was widely accepted as being caused by stress
or anxiety. There was also the idea that some of the patients
had many illnesses during their childhood and were mollycoddled
and given excessive sympathy by their mothers, so it was thought
that they developed a 'learned illness behaviour' pattern and
that when they became adults their minds developed the symptoms,
or the actual disease in order to get that sympathy. Other researchers
considered the possibility of a virus being the cause but despite
extensive investigations they couldn't find any scientific evidence
to prove it, or cure it, so the patients suffered from chronic
pain, anxiety, and depression.
The name of that ailment was peptic ulcer
disease. In the 1980's two researchers named Barry Marshall and
Robin Warren discovered that the ulcers were actually caused
by an acid resistant bacteria and then they developed an antibiotic
treatment which cured 90% of cases in a week.
Another condition which was regarded as
having the same sort of origin was Da Costa's syndrome, however
the cause has not yet been found. I wrote an article about it
for Wikipedia based on the history of the different ideas and
findings. During that process I had two critics who arranged
for that article to be deleted and for me to be banned.
The reason
for people having 'closed minds'
There were some researchers who studied
the history of peptic ulcers and would mention the case of a
nineteenth century man who was shot in the stomach and lived,
and the bullet wound healed in such a way that it left a clean
hole in his stomach which scientists could look through.They
observed changes in the color of the lining of his stomach whenever
he was under stress, which led to the development of the idea
that stomach ulcers were due to the effect of stress and excess
stomach acid. People generally became so convinced about that
idea that ever since then any other suggestions were liable to
be regarded as non-mainstream or fringe medicine of doubtful
value. It was also thought that it was completely impossible
for a virus to live in stomach acid, so any suggestion of a viral
cause was likely to be ridiculed.
There are some people who have closed minds
and don't want anyone to read anything except their own ideas
so when I wrote about ALL of the history of Da Costa's
syndrome my two critics deleted everything that shed doubt on
their own point of view.
You can read the lead up to that banning
below, followed by the article that I wrote here.
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THE
ENTIRE TEXT FOR DA COSTA'S SYNDROME THAT HAD BEEN IN WIKIPEDIA
BEFORE I STARTED ADDING TO IT
IT HAD BEEN IN
WIKIPEDIA FOR EIGHTEEN
MONTHS FROM 15-5-2006, AND CAN BE SEEN here
on 17-10-07 AND I BEGAN ADDING TO IT ON 9-12-07 here .
"Da Costa's Syndrome is a type of anxiety disorder first
observed in soldiers in the American Civil War. It causes symptoms
similar to heart disease but, upon examination, nothing is found
to be physically wrong with the patient. The symptoms usually
consist of fatigue upon exertion, combined with shortness of
breath, palpitations, sweating, chest pain, shaking, and, less
commonly, fainting. The symptoms may increase whilst exercising,
and it is thought to be caused partly by hyperventilation.
Related: Neurasthenia, Orthostatic intolerance,
Hyperventilation syndrome, Chronic fatigue syndrome, Soldier's
heart.
This disease
article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it."
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Some
Comments on the improvements that I made to the article
My contributions to the Wikipedia Da Costa's
syndrome page started smoothly, but after I added information
about my own research my
contributions were continually disrupted by the same two editors,
namely WhatamIdoing and
Gordonofcartoon. I was initially told that I had taken up too
much space with that research so I abbreviated it, but that attempt
to comply with advice and policy was completely ignored and the
information was deleted again, so I haven't put it back since.
I then began adding to the history section
of the topic, but each time I did my critics accused me of violating
a never ending series of policies. However, I checked the Wikipedia
guidelines and found that most of what I added from independent
peer-reviewed journals was exactly what policy required, but
that didn't stop my two critics from finding fault with them.
They just found newer policies or sub-clauses of policies as
their excuse for deleting anything that didn't agree with their
point of view. In
particular, they systematically deleted the most important scientific
discoveries of the physical causes of each of the four main symptoms. To
read some of the discussions related to these deletions you can
scroll down the Da Costa's syndrome talk page here and the User talk page here,
and the recently
deleted section here..The disruptions continued from
December 2007 to May 2008 when I was topic banned, and then until
January 2009 when I was banned from Wikipedia.
During that time I was being criticised
on a "Request for Comments" page where it was suggested
that the dispute could be resolved if all interested editors
wrote a separate page of information so that neutral editors
could later combine them to provide one unbiased article. My
two critics refused to co-operate with that process, but I notified
the other editors that I would need a few weeks to prepare an
article, and ultimately posted it onto the subpage in Wikipedia.
The initial response of a neutral editor
named Avnjay was that it complied with all of the policies, and
there was no bias, and that it was already "a lot better" than the existing one. I then began co-operating with Avnjay on improving
it and continued until he advised me that he would be busy on
other private activities for awhile. see here
I responded to the outstanding requests
for comments or references and completed the essay a few months
later. As it was the only one written I used it to replace the
Wikipedia topic page that readers see. I did that four times
between 25-1-09 and 27-1-09. On the first occasion it was deleted
within eight hours by one of my critics so I replaced it and
he deleted it again, and it was reverted the third and fourth
times by the other critic, and each time they replaced it with
a few paragraphs that were consistent with their own bias.
The article that I transferred to the topic
page can be seen here
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=266713530&oldid=266577085
My critics replaced it with a reduced and edited version e.g.
on 27-1-09 here
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=266787024&oldid=266755214
The article that I wrote can also be seen
on the website of another internet encyclopedia called Wikisage
here
http://en.wikisage.org/wiki/Da_Costa%27s_syndrome
The full text that I wrote is also shown
below. M.B.
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The
Da Costa's Syndrome Article Prepared for Wikipedia but rejected.
Written
by M.A.Banfield© : Wikipedia ID - Posturewriter
Notes about copyright:
My initial contributions to Wikipedia were provided to that online
encyclopedia for free. However, since then, two critics kept
on deleting most of what I wrote so instead of wasting it I put
it on my website. Later, when I was offered the opportunity to
do a separate subpage I decided to write it on my own computer
first so that I could do it without constant interference from
my two critics who were making it impossible to complete. I then
posted it onto the Wikipedia subpage to give neutral editors
the opportunity to discuss it, and eventually transferred it
to the topic page where my two critics immediately deleted it
and then arranged for me to be banned.
The ultimate
result is that it was published on my website first so it is
subject to my copyright, but because I posted it to Wikipedia
it is available to anyone to use under a GDFL license. Here is
an extract from Wikipedia about that license . . . "Conditions
. . . Material licensed under the current version of the license
can be used for any purpose, as long as the use meets certain
conditions . . All previous authors of the work must be attributed"
etc. here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=GNU_Free_Documentation_License&diff=297524086&oldid=297523183#Conditions
The first two
sections of the subpage were rewritten by another editor, but
that subpage and it's associated talk page has been deleted.
I have therefore replaced the rewritten sections with my version,
so I claim authorship, and the article is presented below.
You can see the previous
criticism notes for this article by the Wikipedia editor named
WhatamIdoing here
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:WhatamIdoing/Sandbox&diff=prev&oldid=243268880#Da_Costa.E2.80.99s_Syndrome
AND
here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:WhatamIdoing/Archive_2
AND MY RESPONSETO THAT CRITICISM here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Disruptive_editing#WhatamIdoing.E2.80.99s_Blitz_Krieg_-_Disruptive_Editing.3F
AND MY RESPONSE TO CRITICISM
RELATED TO REMARKS SUCH AS "VERIFIABILITY", "NEUTRALITY
DISPUTED", AND "CITATION NEEDED" CAN BE SEEN IN
THE ADDITION OF 36 MORE REFERENCES, AND 300 MORE LINKS TO TEXT
IN THE ARTICLE BELOW
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The text that I prepared for the Da Costa's Syndrome page
Contents
1 Da Costa's Syndrome
2 History
2.1 1864-1899
2.2 1900-1919
2.3 1920-1949
2.4 1950-1999
2.5 2000-2008
3 Symptoms
4 Predisposing factors
5 Onset of symptoms
6 Causes
7 General Physical Characteristics
8 Physiological Abnormalities related to exertion
9 Treatment
10 Alternative names for Da Costa's syndrome
11 Differential Diagnosis
12 Related Conditions
13 See Also
14 Portrait of a typical Da Costa's syndrome patient
15 References
Da Costa's Syndrome
Da Costa's Syndrome is a disorder of unknown origin[1][2][3]
which involves a set of symptoms that include left-sided chest
pains, palpitations, breathlessness, faintness, dizziness and
fatigue occurring exclusively in response to physical exertion
in some patients,[4] but in most cases the symptoms occur to
a lesser degree at other times. The tendency to excessive tiredness
during the day, and a reduced capacity for exertion[5][6], are
the most prominent complaints.
The condition was first identified by J.M.DaCosta who observed
it in soldiers during the American Civil War and later studied
300 patients to distinguish it from heart disease which has similar
symptoms.[7] Since then there have been many heated disputes
and controversies[1][8][2][9][10] about it being heart disease
or not[1], real or imaginary[1][11], genuine or malingering[12],
and physical or mental[13], and more than 80 different theories
and labels have been proposed and scientifically investigated[14][15].
Da Costa called it "irritable heart" but the most appropriate
label according to Harvard professor Paul Dudley White, who studied
the subject for more than 50 years, was neurocirculatory asthenia.[1]
Other authors have regarded Da Costa's syndrome as the best name
because it does not give any attribution to hypothesised cause
and is therefore the most objective term.[11]
The typical patient is a sedentary worker with a long, thin,
flat, or narrow chest, and a stooped spine, as depicted in a life sized portrait
which was previously displayed in the Museum of the Post-Graduate
Medical School of London[16]. Notable medical authority Oglesby
Paul summarised many of the Da Costa controversies in a 1987
edition of the British Heart Journal[2] and since then the use
of the term has become rare and, although the ailment is still
a common and easily diagnosed problem, it has been absorbed into
other modern categories of labelling. The abnormal response to
effort is consistent with the modern equivalent of effort intolerance
which is a symptom of a type of postural orthostatic tachycardia
syndrome which is a sub-type of the chronic fatigue syndrome[17]
[1] [18]. Other popularly used labels included soldier's heart,
effort syndrome, anxiety neurosis,[1][2] and post-viral fatigue
syndrome.[15] All modern ideas about cause and labelling have
their strong adherents and opponents, however, none have yet
been scientifically proven or universally accepted.
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The following
History section has been described by
my critics as unreliable information which violates Medically Reliable Sourcing
policy because
the references were "old", "entirely superseded",
"from more than a century ago", and "from before
most editors were born". As another example the words "seriously
outdated", were used on the arbitration page where I was
banned here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration&diff=prev&oldid=266981397#Statement_by_WhatamIdoing
This is a
brief sample of that criticism . . . "Statement
by WhatamIdoing . . . Use of (un)reliable sources . . .the
more I read, the more I realized that Posturewriter was cherry-picking
his sources and misrepresenting them . . . By "cherry-picking",
I mean, for example, that Posturewriter dedicates an inordinate
amount of attention to concepts that were rapidly discarded (restrictive
clothing causes DCS: rejected by J.M. Da Costa himself and not
seriously entertained by anyone except Posturewriter himself
for a century now) and to seriously outdated materials (a 1951
textbook is cited thirty-four times in his preferred draft; a
text from the 1950's is chosen because texts even as recent as
the 1960's don't support his view)" here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration&diff=prev&oldid=266981397#Statement_by_WhatamIdoing
Here is an extract from
the Wikipedia policy on reliable sources for medical articles
"History sections often cite older work,
for obvious reasons", and
can be seen here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Reliable_sources_(medicine-related_articles)&diff=prev&oldid=291953712#Use_up-to-date_evidence
The full list of my 65
references is here and the
information that I added about tight clothing probably involves
less than 1% of the text. Reference
number 7 is J.M.DaCosta's
original article from 1871. The
following words, written by Da Costa himself on page 38 were
. . . "Undoubtedly
the waist belt,
but particularly
the knapsack,
may have had something to do with aggravating the trouble,
but I could find no proof that they had produced it".
You will be able to see that more than
half of the 60 references that I provided were from sources published
since the 1960's.
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History
1864-1899
Da Costa's syndrome is
named after the surgeon Jacob Mendes Da Costa, who first observed
it in soldiers during the American Civil War. The typical case
was the civilian who enlisted in the army and was sent on long
hours of marching, often up to twenty miles in one day, sometimes
at double quick pace, with poor food and water, and in bad weather.
They developed a viral infection and diarhoea and became exhausted
and fell out of line and were hospitalised for treatment. After
several months they recovered from the infection but when they
returned to marching they were unable to keep up the pace as
before and were again hospitalised, and although making a partial
recovery they continued to suffer from abnormal palpitations,
breathlessness and fatigue in response to mild exertion and were
unfit for full military duty. Da Costa also noted that the pulse
was always greatly and rapidly influenced by position, such as
stooping or reclining.[7]
Another physician, Earl de Grey, had previously presented four
reports on British soldiers with these symptoms between 1864
and 1868, and attributed them to the heavy weight of military
equipment being carried in knapsacks which were tightly strapped
to the chest in a manner which constricted the action of the
heart. Also in 1864, Henry Harthorme observed soldiers
in the American Civil War who had similar symptoms which were
attributed to "long-continued overexertion, with deficiency
of rest and often nourishment", and indefinite heart complaints
were attributed to lack of sleep and bad food[19]. In 1870
Arthur Bowen Myers of the Coldstream Guards also regarded the
accoutrements as the cause of the trouble, which he called neurocirculatory
asthenia and cardiovascular neurosis[20][21][22][23].
1900-1919
In 1916 Sir James
MacKenzie chaired a major medical conference aimed at gaining
a better understanding of the condition[12]. He attributed the
fatigue to the abnormal pooling of blood in the abdominal and
peripheral veins during exertion, which reduced blood flow to
the brain. He also observed that the soldiers were fit and well
at the start of the war, but after becoming severely exhausted
by long marching or viral infections they recovered partially
but with a reduced capacity for effort. They experienced abnormal
palpitations and breathlessness which impaired their capacity
to run fast, or to run up and down stairs, or to keep up with
their comrades in marches as before.[23]
Between 1916 and 1919 several synonyms were used
to describe Da Costa's syndrome in World War 1, including soldier's
heart and neurocirculatory asthenia. Sir Thomas Lewis gave it
the title of the effort syndrome [24]because he observed
that in some cases the symptoms occurred exclusively in response
to physical exertion. Many of these patients had poor physiques
with narrow or flat chests and a history of minor symptoms of
the condition prior to enlisting in the army, and they often
came from sedentary occupations which they chose because of difficulties
in doing strenuous work. They had also avoided vigorous sports
for similar reasons[4]. Some of them enlisted several times and
were repeatedly rejected but persisted until they were finally
accepted, and then their symptoms were aggravated or caused by
strenuous exertion at training camps, or while on long marches
where they contracted viral infections, and after recovering
from the fever they found that they could not sustain their former
levels of activity. Graded exercise testing was used to gauge
the severity of their condition, and both Lewis and Osler used
it as a treatment[25][4][26] which enabled some of the soldiers
to return to full military duty, but others were put on light
duties or discharged. After the war they generally changed to
lighter occupations than they had before the war, and some were
chronically incapacitated by their fatigue[4].
1920-1949
In 1939 J.L. Caughey
Jnr. reviewed the literature of internal medicine on the subject
of cardiovascular neurosis which referred to cases that involved
symptoms similar to those of heart disease occurring where there
was no apparent disease of the heart or blood vessels. The typical
patient had his tonsils and appendix removed as a child, as well
as many infectious illnesses and colds. He had a thin physique,
and a weak stomach, and his kidneys had been damaged by Scarlet
fever, and there were frequent fluctuations in the color and
volume of his urine. His blood pressure was unstable, and his
peripheral circulation was poor, with pale fingers and toes in
cold weather. He had difficulty with concentrating and thinking
clearly and had a poor memory. They had a respiratory infection
three years prior to suffering from pain in his heart, shortness
of breath, dizziness, faintness and weakness. All of his symptoms
were "made worse by exertion or nervous strain". They
often felt breathless and would complain of not being able to
expand their chest far enough to get a full breath. Caughey also
noted previous exercise tests which indicated "a physiological
abnormality in the patient as compared to the normal person",
but he believed that it was due to their fear that exercise would
cause a heart attack. In describing the lack of stamina he suggested
that there were two groups of patients, the first who never developed
the ability to persevere against the challenges and adversities
of life, and those who tried but gave up.[27]
In the 1940's there were several studies aimed at determining
the physical basis of these conditions[11][28] and in 1947
S.Wolf studied the "respiratory distress characterized by
inability to get a full breath" and found that the thoracic
diaphragm function was abnormal, and when the diaphragms contractile
state during inspiration was such that adequate inspiration was
no longer possible, breathlessness occurred with a feeling of
inability to take a full breath. The spasm of the diaphragm was
often accompanied by pains in the chest and shoulder, occlusion
of the lower end of the esophagus, and difficulty swallowing.[29]
Also in 1947 a report by Cohen and White noted that the
complete mechanism of Da Costa syndrome symptoms was unknown
but when respiration was investigated objective abnormalities
were found, "just as when other symptoms of N.C.A. are investigated
with objective methods, which demonstrates that the abnormalities
are not all in the subjective sphere". The respiratory abnormalities
at rest were few but during exercise the abnormalities became
more pronounced and the deviations from the normal became greater
as the rate and amount of exercise increased.[30]
1950-1979
In 1950 Edmund Wheeler presented the results of a 20-year
longitudinal study of 173 patients with "effort syndrome"
and found that the condition involved varying degrees of disability
but all patients tended to improve with a low-stress lifestyle.
He concluded that, although they all had what was called 'anxiety',
they did not develop a higher frequency of illnesses such as
peptic ulcers, diabetes, or asthma etc, "which have recently
been said to be caused by anxiety" and that "there
is no evidence that anxiety causes these diseases".[13]
In 1951 the fourth edition
of Paul Dudley White's book "Heart Disease" contained
a chapter on "Neurocirculatory Asthenia", because,
as he explains, the symptoms are similar to heart disease, but
are not the same, and he adds, that they are also similar to,
but can occur in the absence of anxiety, and are not exactly
like those produced by effort in a normal healthy person, and
therefore need to be discussed separately.
He describes the typical group of symptoms which are precipitated
by excitement or effort, and stated that "it constitutes
a kind of fatigue syndrome" and in some cases "it is
more or less a chronic condition," and that regardless of
it's pathogenesis it was a real illness. In some patients the
neurocirculatory symptoms were most prominent, but for some unknown
reason there were other cases where the main symptoms were gastrointestinal
or cerebral. The general causes of the condition appear to include
such strains as worry over business, social, or family matters,
emotional conflicts, physical or nervous fatigue, and exhaustion
from acute infections or illnesses. The organic basis was not
known although the possibilities which had been considered in
the previous 25 years, included thyrotoxicosis, low-grade infection,
adrenal hyperactivity, hyperventilation resulting in alkalosis,
and lack of salt, but none have been confirmed. Many of the patients
had thin physiques with an "unusually vertical position
of the heart", and "abnormality of shape of the capillary
loops at the base of the nail" . . . "It is common
to find that close relatives have had similar problems, and recent
studies indicated that it was one of the Mendelian dominant group
of inherited disorders." It was common in World War 1, occurred
in civilians as well as soldiers, and it is generally seen in
young adults, but can occur at any age, and is more common in
women than men. The frequent sighing distinguishes the condition
from heart disease, and the fatigue sometimes produces more incapacity,
and even complete disability. It is a real and not an imaginary
incapacity, even though at first glance it may have appeared
imaginary in World War 1 (1914-1918) when it was sometimes labelled
"malingering", and even though in civilian practice
it has frequently been diagnosed as "mere nervousness".
It is milder in civilian life than in war and it is so commonly
associated with psycho-neurosis of the anxiety type "that
the two conditions have sometimes been confused one for the other
or considered to be synonymous, the term anxiety neurosis having
come to mean for many the same collection of symptoms which identify
neurocirculatory asthenia."
Treatment involves rest for days or months or as long as required,
and elaborate psychotherapy is generally not needed. "The
condition must be discussed seriously, not lightly as if it was
of no importance", and it is equally wrong to dismiss it
as negligible or imaginary, as it is to to regard it as dangerous
or serious and a threat to life which demands bed rest. Management
of the symptoms involves normal but quiet work and play and the
avoidance of long working hours or burdensome tasks. Like most
people these patients usually try to keep up with their friends
in strenuous living in the business, professional, or social
world but with clear medical advice they soon learn the benefits
limiting their activities and gradually adjust them to suit their
symptoms, and are surprised at recapturing a feeling of well
being."[1]
In 1956 Paul Wood's 2nd edition of Diseases of the Heart
and Circulation included a chapter on the effort syndrome. He
described how it "is characterised by a group of symptoms
which unduly limit the subject's capacity for effort" and
recorded that "The cardinal symptoms" of irritable
heart, soldier's heart, disordered action of the heart (D.A.H.),
etc. are "breathlessness (93%), palpitations (89%), fatigue
(88%), left inframammary pain (78%), and dizziness (78%), or
syncope (fainting) (35%)". He also suggested a variety of
methods for diagnosing the difference between the symptoms and
those of heart disease. For example the chest pain usually involved
a sharp stabbing sensation in the lower ribs caused by prolonged
poor posture. He noted that the location of the pain was so near
the heart that "it seems to convince the patient that his
heart is diseased", especailly because of the palpitations
that occur at other times. It was natural to draw that conclusion
but some patients developed a morbid fear of heart disease and
death, however, although the exact mechanism was not known, it
could be "immediately abolished by the intramuscular injection
of 2 ml. of novocaine at the site of maximum intensity and tenderness",
indicating that it was in the muscle between the ribs and was
related to fibrositis. The breathlessness involved frequent deep
sighs brought on by exercise, but were also common at other times,
and the patients will say they are not able to obtain a full
and satisfying breath. This can also occur at night when it "may
be confused with asthma. "A simple test" for the symptom
involves forced hyperventilation where "The patient is asked
to breath deeply and rapidly for one minute." When a healthy
person is asked to stop he feels breathless for about 20 seconds,
but a patient with Da Costa's syndrome "continues forced
breathing, explaining later that he felt breathless." i.e.
there is an abnormal breathing pattern - "Dyspnoea"
instead of insufficient breathing - "apnoea". Also
"Normal subjects have no difficulty holding the breath for
at least 30 seconds, but patients with Da Costa's syndrome usually
give up very quickly. With regard to the fatigue the patients
often do not feel refreshed when they wake up in the morning,
and they may "feel tired and listless during the day".
The other type of fatigue which is related to effort involves
a delay in the return of pulse rate after exertion.[16]. In considering
the influence of psychological factors he noted that the similarity
of the symptoms to heart disorders may be the cause of a fear
of heart disease (cardiophobia), which contributes to the reluctance
to exercise (i.e. resulting in exercise phobia), and that all
of the symptoms may have originated from a general anxiety neurosis
resulting from genetic or familial factors, or poor health during
childhood, and the consequent lack of exercise and the avoidance
of sport during childhood.
In 1976 Charles Wooley presented an article about the
history of Da Costa's syndrome in the journal called 'Circulation'.
He reported that Da Costa originally called it 'irritable heart'
when he noticed the condition amongst soldiers during the American
Civil War. However he added that a later study by Thomas Lewis
revealed that most of the soldiers who had the problem came from
sedentary occupations and "a large percentage" were
"affected by the condition in civil life many years before
joining the Army" and that it was not particularly a soldiers
malady, and that it also affected some athletes. A further study
in 1941 by Paul Wood reported that it was commoner in women[11].
The author also noted that possibly several distinct, but similar
conditions were causing confusion in diagnosis, and concluded
that many of Da Costa's original patients had been described
as having occasional cardiac sounds and murmurs that could now
be included in the newly evolving category of mitral valve prolapse
syndrome. He then recommended deferred judgement about the nature
of the other cases, where advances in technology were likely
to provide a more precise understanding of the relationship between
the various causes [31].
1980-1999
In 1980 Soviet researcher V.S.Volkov studied the physical
fitness levels of patients with angina heart disease, and compared
them to those with neurocirculatory dystony (Da Costa's syndrome).
He divided heart disease patients into three groups with heart
pain at rest, heart pain every day, and heart pain occasionally.
He also divided NCD patients into three stages of mild, moderate,
and severe. 80% of Da Costa's syndrome patients were fitter than
heart disease patients, but 20% were not, and had to stop the
exercise because of changes in their heart rate, or overwhelming
and radiating chest pain, general fatigue, and fear for their
hearts.[32]
In 1987 prominent Harvard researcher Oglesby Paul presented
a ten page history of Da Costa's syndrome in the British Heart
Journal, in which he outlined all of the controversies of the
previous hundred years. He reported that many theories and labels
had been proposed, but for each one which had supporting evidence,
there were other studies which contradicted the findings. For
example, if one study presents anxiety as a cause, another study
will find patients who are not anxious, another study will report
hyperventilation as a cause, yet there will also be studies which
show patients who don't hyperventilate, and for each study that
shows a relationship to mitral valve prolapse syndrome there
will be others that show no evidence of MVP. He concluded that
the condition still existed, and was easy to diagnose, effecting
4% of the population, but that there were newer more popular
labels, such as 'anxiety state', where he added that such labels
would do no harm as long as the important history of the subject
was not forgotten.[2]
In 1998 David Streeten presented an article in JAMA[3],
explaining that the fatigue reported by Da Costa and Lewis were
early descriptions of a "newly recognised" delayed
form of orthostatic hypotension which is a feature of some types
of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. He stated that "as a working
hypothesis", the fatigue was due to abnormal pooling of
blood in the lower limbs which delayed and reduced the flow of
blood and oxygen supply to the brain. That effect was compounded
by a reduced circulating red blood cell mass. He then emphasised
that it is essential to identify these physical abnormalities
by repeatedly measuring the patients blood pressure in recumbency
and after standing for ten minutes or tilt testing, and that
"it is inappropriate to consider that CFS is a manifestation
of mental disorder" unless those physical causes are excluded.
He added that the expense of these tests was not unreasonable
considering that almost every type of work or lifestyle required
a person to stand for six hours per day without experiencing
the symptoms associated with reduced blood pressure. He then
concluded that the instigating cause remains unknown, and that
effective and safe treatments for the debilitating symptoms are
still not available and that further research is required.[3]
The relevance
to modern labelling terminology between 2000-2008
The use of the term Da Costa's syndrome has fallen out of fashion
and is rarely used nowadays,[2] however to put it into context
with modern labels there are some relevant descriptions from
the history of research. In that regard, in 1916 Thomas
Lewis noted that in some cases the condition was exclusively
related to exertion,[33] [5][4] and in 1956 Paul Wood
O.B.E. described it as a syndrome of six clearly identifiable
symptoms which had previously been called "primary"[12]
"typical" [34] "characteristic"[35] "chief"[24][36]
, or "classic"[1] and which he called "cardinal"
symptoms[16]. Harvard professor Paul Dudley White described it
as a definite malady which was a type of fatigue syndrome that
is more or less chronic.[1] Nowadays those typical, distinct,
or characteristic features can be seen in conditions which include
the symptom with the misnomer of effort intolerance (which should
be effort limitations) due to exercise induced postural hypotension.[23][16][37]
For example, it is seen in one type of the Postural Orthostatic
Tachycardia Syndrome, which is in turn one of the many types
of chronic fatigue syndrome[17] [3][37][38][10] [39][18]. However,
there are still many different ideas about cause, and the condition
has been virtually lost in a sea of other labels[5][2][40] and
although there is a vast amount of direct and indirect research
evidence for physical cause[29][30][34], none have been universally
accepted[14]. The topic remains the subject of ongoing controversy
amongst imprecisely defined anxiety disorders, poorly characterised
post-war syndromes[41][42][43], and the complex CFS group of
ailments[41][44][45][46][38][37][37][38], Opinions differ from
one medical specialist to another[17][10][18], from one medical
authority to another, and from one medical consumer group to
another, and change regularly[44][15][18]. Dictionary definitions
and label priorities also alter with the changes in opinion,
however the Merriam Webster online Medical Dictionary [2] includes
a definition of neurocirculatory asthenia, with the typical symptoms
occurring in relation to exertion and in the absence of heart
disease, and provides the synonyms of "cardiac neurosis,
effort syndrome, irritable heart, and soldier's heart" [47],
which were the most frequently used synonyms for Da Costa's syndrome.[1][2]
Indeed Dorland's medical dictionary lists Da Costa's syndrome
and neurocirculatory asthenia as direct synonyms[48] and the
current 2008 edtion of Harrison's Principles of Internal Medicine
describes the symptoms of the modern term chronic fatigue syndrome
as being "not new" with the comment that in the past
it may have been diagnosed as the "effort syndrome"[17]
defined in 1919 by Lewis[25][4].
Symptoms
The typical symptoms of Da Costa's syndrome are palpitations,
breathlessness, chest pains, and or fatigue[16][34][49][12] occurring
exclusively in response to physical exertion in some cases[4][16][6],
and occasionally to changes in posture[33][50][12], but in many
patients they are also associated with some viral infections
or nervous strains.[1][27]
* The
palpitations occur as
a more forceful and rapid beating of the heart than usual and
are generally associated with stress or exertion[4][1].
* The
breathlessness is related
to spasm and inefficient function of the thoracic diaphragm[29][11][28][30]
which is the primary breathing muscle, and it features occasional
slow, forced, deep breaths - abnormal sighs or yawns[27][50][14][30][1][5][11][34].The
person often feels as if they cannot get a full breath, and they
tend to avoid crowded buses, trains and theatres, and they prefer
to sit near open windows to get fresh air, or in aisle seats
so that they can leave the room quickly if necessary, and in
some cases they avoid open spaces where there are crowds. This
was due to an abnormal build up of CO2 exhaled by the crowd in
a confined space, which tended to increase the frequency of sighs
and ultimately cause all of the physical symptoms of the condition,
and sometimes a sense of suffocation and a sense of fear that
resembled anxiety attacks[14].
* The
most common chest pain
is a dull ache or tenderness in the lower left side of the chest[24][36]
with occasional brief, sharp and stabbing sensations in that
area[4][1][5][14][11][16][2][34], and there may sometimes be
cramping pains in the muscles on the far left or right side of
the chest brought on by muscualr efforts [11][16][1]such as the
strain of "lifting a heavy weight", especially at awkward
angles - "in such actions as cranking an engine" [11][16].
* The
fatigue involves two
distinct types. Firstly an abnormal pattern of tiredness
with the person often waking up tired in the morning[8], and
feeling tired at various times throughout the day[35], and secondly,
an increased frequency of sighing, or gasping breathlessness
and exhaustion as the level of physical exertion increases[24],
and it is unlike normal fatigue insofar as it tends to persist
abnormally despite rest[5]. It is related to abnormal pooling
of blood in the abdominal and peripheral veins which reduces
blood flow to the heart and brain[4][38] , especially during
exertion, which explains why faintness and dizziness are often
additional features, and why most patients have a reduced capacity
for exertion.[23][16][3][17]
* The
faintness or giddiness
can often occur when standing up quickly, especially when getting
out of bed in the morning[33], or after a large meal[33], or
when standing still for many hours on a hot day, or sometimes
by bending or stooping[24], or by being moved on a swingboard[24]
or tilt table[37], and is related to the abnormal distribution
and movement of blood throughout the body[24][33].
Predisposing
factors
The condition may be genetic or familial[11][35][30][16][13][27][34][2]
and is more likely to affect individuals who had multiple infectious
illnesses and surgical procedures during childhood[4][27], and
who had thin[23][51][1][52] and stooped physiques[24][53][11]
[31][1][34], and sedentary workers[4][33][54] who avoided or
never played sport[4][27][1][16][31], and it is more common in
women[4][14][13][11][1][34][2][39][18], and often occurs or starts
during a pregnancy[13][14][55]. Most soldiers who developed the
condition were former sedentary workers[24][33] who had minor
indications of the typical symptoms prior to the war[7][4][33][54][51][14][35][31],
and were volunteers rather than conscripts[33][36], and it was
more common in the army where strenuous marching was required,
and less common in the navy and airforce[36].
Onset of symptoms
In some cases the condition appears to have been present since
birth, or ever since the patient can remember[27][51][30][13][35],
but it is often gradual in onset without the patient noticing
it or being able to identify an obvious cause[14], or it may
start and recur or persist after a viral infection[7][23][4][14][16][2],
or after an excessive or prolonged period of physical[7][4][14][54][41]
or emotional stress[19][13][1]. The average age of onset is 25
years[35][14][34].
Causes
According to J.M.Da Costa in his original paper of 1871 the causes
were "Fevers" 17%, "Diarrhoea" 30.5%, "Hard
field service, particularly excessive marching" 34.5%, and
finally, "Wounds, injuries, rheumatism, scurvy, ordinary
duties of soldier life, and doubtful causes" 18%.[7][12]
Since Da Costa's initial report several authors have proposed
that bad work posture[12], compression of the chest with tight
straps[12], work involving severe muscular exertion[12], anxiety[1][2][48]
related to personal or business stress[13][16][1], pregnancy[13][14]
and malnutrition[19][1][14][41] can be added to the list of causes.
General Physical
Characteristics
Da Costa's syndrome can affect individuals of any type of physique,
but they are generally thin[23][25][33][35][51][1][52], with
various chest wall deformities and stooped or scoliotic spines[24][4][33][31][11][16][34].
They are generally, but have not always been poor athletes and
swimmers[33][30][14], and have an abnormally functioning thoracic
diaphragm which results in inefficient breathing and the tendency
to sigh more often than usual. They also have a reduced capacity
to hold their breath[4], and an intolerance to carbon dioxide
where deliberately overbreathing, or breathing CO2 enriched air
brings on their symptoms[14][56][2], as does wearing a gas mask[31][11][30]
and the infusion of sodium lactate[34]. Other common distinguishing
features are abnormalities in the shape of their fingernail capillaries,[1][11][34]
and it is very common to find dermatographia[24] where running
a finger nail lightly down the chest will leave a trailing red
mark and hence the ability to write on the skin.
Physiological
Abnormalities related to exertion
Da Costa's syndrome has been called "the physiological syndrome
of effort"[33][54] and the patients have a poor aerobic
capacity or low level of fitness which is not related to the
lack of exercise[25][4], and they have breathing patterns and
other symptoms which are not the normal response to effort[50][14][30][1][5][11][2].
They have poor diaphragm movement and reduced chest expansion
at rest[27][11], and during exercise training such as walking,
jogging, or running "they have an easily induced oxygen
debt"[1], their breathing become disproportionately shallow,
oxygen consumption is lower, and blood lactate levels are higher
than normal[14][30][34][12], in some cases more than double[14],
and as the intensity and duration of the exercise increases the
physiological abnormalities increase[24][14][30] which is consistent
with the histories and claimed disabilities of these patients[50][14].
There is also an abnormal pooling of blood in the abdominal and
peripheral veins[23][25][3][38] , and a slow return of pulse
rate to normal after exertion[24][33][54][16].
Treatment
The reports of Da Costa, White, Wheeler, and Wood etc. show that
patients recovered from the more severe symptoms when removed
from the strenuous activity, the stressful emotional situations,
or the sustained lifestyle that caused them[19][33][13][1]. In
many cases relapses were prevented by determining the limits
of exertion and lifestyle and keeping within them[24][13][1][57][44].
The physical limitations were associated with the abnormalities
in respiration and circulation, and exercise testing and blood
CO2 measurements can be used to accurately estimate the degree
of disability for up to 20 years later[50]. The treatments evident
from the previous studies included appropriate levels of exercise
where possible[23][26][1][2][58], using individually designed
graded exercise regimes[24][50][33][59][41][9][6][34][49] which
have been proven to be effective in relieving symptoms and improving
exercise tolerance in come cases[50][12][17]. Some symptoms such
as faintness can be prevented or relieved by wearing loose clothing
about the neck, chest, and waist[7][20][12], and standing up
slowly can prevent the faintness associated with postural or
orthostatic hypotension in some cases[16][17], and avoiding postural
changes such as stooping, or lying on the left or right side[7][24][33][11][12],
or the back relieved some of the palpitations, chest pains, or
giddiness in some cases. Some of the symptoms can be relieved
by laying in a recliner chair[59], and the chest pain can be
temporarily relieved by intramuscular injection of novocaine
at the site of tenderness[16]. Other treatments were improving
nutrition[19][33], physique and posture,[7], and drinking more
fluids, increasing salt intake, and sleeping with the head elevated
which can reduce the fatigue[60][61][38]. It is also useful to
reassure the patient that the condition is not due to heart disease
and that many individuals manage the symptoms successfully by
making appropriate modification to their exercise levels and
lifestyle, and generally have a normal lifespan[33].
Prevention
In his original paper J.M. Da Costa suggested that the condition
tended to become chronic after a prolonged and exhausting viral
infection where the person was sent back to full and demanding
activity too soon. He therefore recommended that the person should
be provided with sufficient rest, nourishment, and gradual physical
training to achieve full strength before resuming former duties[7][2][33].
Various other authors have suggested that the adoption of a moderate
lifestyle and avoidance of the extremes can prevent this type
of condition from developing[33][13][1][57], and that this general
principle applies regardless of other causes and pathogenesis[62].
As the result of research in World War 1, the World War 2 army
recruits with evidence of symptoms in civilian life were excluded
from joining, and the incidence durding the war decreased significantly[8].
Alternative names
for Da Costa's syndrome
The name of Da Costa's syndrome has changed so often[36] from
one specialist[5][14][34], or from one country[32][44] [12][18],
or one year to another[14][44][18] that it has created confusion
in the definition, diagnosis, and study of the condition,[33][31]
as is evident from many research articles which mention four
or five in their introduction,[27][50][30][14][1][16][56][34][31][63][61][6][12][41][45][18]
[17] and from a recent website which lists what it claims are
more than eighty synonyms.[15] However the title of Da Costa's
syndrome has been regarded as the preferred label by several
authors because of its non-attribution and unchallengable aspect.[11]
By contrast, the labels such as irritable heart or cardiac asthenia
are inappropriate because the ailment is not a form of heart
disease[1]. Similarly labels such as Soldier's heart or Combat
fatigue are too specific[36][2] and can be challenged because
the vast majority of patients have never been soldiers,[1] and
it is inappropriate when the symptoms occur in pregnant civilian
women[64][11]. Relating it to Post-viral fatigue syndrome[17]
can be disputed because, in many cases the patient could not
recall having a viral infection, and the label of Post-traumatic
stress disorder (PTSD) can be challenged because many patients
have not experienced preceding trauma,[13][2]and the symptoms
are not the same as those caused by stress[14] and can have a
genetic[35][30] [34][31][2][45], or gradual onset unrelated to
stress [30]. Somatoform disorder refers to symptoms occurring
in the absence of physical or physiological evidence to account
for them [3], yet Da Costa's symptoms have actually been called
"the physiological syndrome of effort"[33], and have
been associated with multiple physical, physiological and biochemical
abnormalities[24][33][50][54][51][30][16][32][2][12][45][18],
and the term dysautonomia implies a fault in the autonomic nervous
system which, whilst it may be an effect, and has not been proven
as a cause[1][11][16][2][39]. There are also discrepancies associated
with the label of Hyperventilation syndrome [1][16][2][65] with
some evidence that the abnormal breathing patterns, which may
include hyperventilation, are secondary to the other symptoms
and physiological abnormalities[8][56]. Similarly, some patients
with MVP have none of the symptoms of Da Costa's syndrome and
vice versa[2][57]. The term anxiety state implies that the patient
is in a constant state of anxiety, yet many patients appear calm
and are rarely affected by anxiety[30][57][38], and the term
anxiety disorder can be disputed[57] because the symptoms are
not the same as those produced by anxiety[33][14][1]and they
don't develop any abnormal incidence of other diseases such as
peptic ulcers or asthma which have been previously, and erroneously
attributed to anxiety[13][2]and labelled as psychosomatic[34].
Similarly the condition cannot be regarded as an exercise phobia
because many patients were capable of strenuous marching prior
to developing the condition [7] or were formerly good athletes[24][51],
and in fact, it has previously been called "Athlete's Heart"[33].
However, by referring to the ailment as Da Costa's syndrome it
can be said that it may be related to anxiety, excessive physical
or emotional stress, post-viral causes, and unknown causes etc.
The symptoms can include orthostatic hypotension and postural
tachycardia[38][18] but those terms are not appropriate as labels
because they don't account for the other symptoms. Da Costa's
could be referred to as a type of Chronic fatigue syndrome,[1][62][3][44][45][39][10][18][17]
because chronic fatigue is the main symptom, but the other five
typical symptoms distinguish it from the general term [4], and
from other types of CFS[44].
Differential
Diagnosis
The condition needs to be distinguished from angina heart disease
(angina pectoris), mitral valve prolapse syndrome[9], hyperventilation
syndrome, hyperkinetic heart, cardiophobia[2], normal tiredness[5][35]
the normal symptoms of exertion[33][5][30][1], normal nervousness[1],
exercise phobia, panic attacks, anxiety state, and depression,
and other similar syndromes such as the the post-traumatic stress
disorders and the numerous post-war syndromes.[2]. It also needs
to be distinguished from other types of orthostatic hypotension
[38][39][18] or chronic fatigue syndromes[10] , which involve
separate or different, or additional symptoms. However many patients
with Da Costa's syndrome also have such problems as a coincidence
or as a result of the ailment. For example patients who have
symptoms similar to heart disease, often develop a fear of heart
disease (cardiophobia)[16][2] Also note that Da Costa's syndrome
involves a set of six classic symptoms, and needs to be distinguished
from conditions that involve only one or two symptoms[34]. For
example hyperkinetic heart may occur on its own as a single symptom,
or it may be part of the set of six in a Da Costa's patient[63][2].
Similarly a person who only has a dual combination of the left-sided
chest pain and palpitations does not necessarily have Da Costa's
syndrome. Also, characteristically Da Costa's syndrome involves
fatigue which includes both an impaired capacity for exertion[24][26][17],
and secondly, an abnormal pattern of tiredness[5]. Therefore,
if patients do not have difficulty with exertion they do not
have Da Costa's syndrome,[7] e.g. a person who complains of abnormal
tiredness but participates in vigorous sport does not have Da
Costa's syndrome.
The history of this condition clearly and precisely defines the
"primary" [12] and "typical" [34]symptoms
as "DaCosta's" "chronic" "fatigue"
"syndrome"[1], which distinguishes it from many other
definitions or types of CFS.
Related Conditions
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome [37]
Soldier's Heart
Chest Wall Syndrome
Costochondritis - left-sided chest pain
Sigh Syndrome
Exercise Intolerance
Mitral Valve Prolapse Syndrome
Portrait of a
typical Da Costa's syndrome patient
[16] click here ( I asked the editors
to put a copy of this photo on the page in Wikipedia but it wasn't,
so I have linked it to the same photo on my website)
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WhatamIdoing's
Nitpicking and lies about the Reliability of my References
During a Requests for comments discussion
two neutral editors recommended that all editors involved in
the Da Costa's dispute should do a separate page of their own,
so that the independent editors could later combine them to ensure
neutral point of view. My two critics flatly refused to co-operate
with that intelligent way of removing bias from the article.
However I did produce a page and a neutral editor wrote these
words to one of my critics whose Wikipedia code name was WhatamIdoing
"Hello WhatamIdoing! . . . To be honest, in my opinion,
it's actually a lot better and far more detailed than the one
that is currently up and I can't find anything which is COI,
unsourced (97 different sources
quoted!!), or biased" at 10:51,
5 October 2008 here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:WhatamIdoing/Archive_2#Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment.2FPosturewriter
. . .
In other words the neutral editor was saying
that the
page that I produced was "a lot better", in all respects,
than the version preferred by my two critics.
Within 6 hours WhatamIdoing started criticising
every detail and cut and pasted the page and subjected it to
more than 80 critical comments, and prompted Avnjay to try and
resolve the issue by asking me to supply more references, so
I did. In particular I provided more modern ones, and many to
show that there was widespread agreement in the medical community
that Da Costa's syndrome was an early name for the chronic fatigue
syndrome. Note that I was not giving my opinion anywhere, but
providing references from many independent, reliable, and verifiable
sources that complied with the requests that were made, and Wikipedia
sourcing policy.
However, WhatamIdoing was so biased and
prejudiced that the criticisms simply became more hostile and
finicky with everything I added, and was misrepresenting the
facts on the arbitration page. Ultimately, one of WhatamIdoing's
friends interrupted the arbitration process and broke all the
rules to ban me.
The following paragraph is a direct quote
from original subpage that I prepared, and WhatamIdoing's criticisms
were added at 21:21, 5
October 2008, so I have highlighted
them in red . . .
"Harvard[Unimportant detail
added to push POV]
professor Paul Dudley White described it as a definite malady
which was a type of fatigue syndrome[Formatting wrong] that is more or less chronic[Formatting wrong].[1] Nowadays those typical, distinct,
or characteristic features can be seen in conditions which include
the symptom with the misnomer of effort intolerance (which should
be effort limitations) due to exercise induced postural hypotension.[11]
For example, it is seen in one type of the Postural Orthostatic
Tachycardia Syndrome, which is in turn one of the many types
of chronic fatigue syndrome.[3]" . . .
"Da Costa's can however be referred to as a type of Chronic
fatigue syndrome,[1][verification needed][original research?][18] because chronic fatigue is the main
symptom, but the other five typical symptoms distinguish it from
the general term, and from other types of CFS.
Reference number 1 was White,
Paul Dudley (1951). Heart Disease. New York, New York:
MacMillan. pp. 578-591, and reference number 18 was Rosen,
S.D.; J.C. King, J.B. Wilkinson, & P.G.F. Nixon (December
1990). "Is chronic fatigue syndrome synonymous with effort
syndrome?". Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine
83: 761-764." see here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:WhatamIdoing/Sandbox&diff=prev&oldid=243268880#The_relevance_to_modern_labelling_terminology_between_2000-2008
Note that I provided two references to
verify the information, but WhatamIdoing ignored that and added
"verification needed" anyway, and that the research
was done by Harvard professor Paul Dudley White who studied the
subject for fifty years and reviewed the history of it in his
book, so it was not "original research" because I didn't
do the research, and Paul Dudley White was not doing original
research but was commenting on the general findings of many researchers,
but WhatamIdoing called it "original research" anyway.
Also I added at least 8 references to show
that there were many researchers who regarded Da Costa's syndrome
as a type of Chronic Fatigue syndrome, and I found a comment
by one of my critics which referred to it as a historical version
of ME, which is an abbreviation for Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/CFS,
which is widely regarded as the main type of CFS. see item 63
here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard/Archive_23#Da_Costa.27s_syndrome
In response to all of the criticism
I only used references which complied with Wikipedia policy which
requires that a person should always verify their text with references
from top quality journals and it gives the "Journal of the
American Medical Association" as an example. The guidelines
also suggest avoiding original research, and prefers "secondary
sources" which are reviews of studies. The basic reason
is that the people who administer those journals are top quality
researchers who ensure that the information is as accurate and
reliable as possible before publishing it.
Here are the details of one of
the references that I used; The Nature of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS); Editorial
/ Journal of the American Medical Association v.280, n.12,
23sep98. David H. P. Streeten, MB, DPhil, Department of
Medicine, State University of New York Health Science Center,
750 E Adams St, Syracuse, NY 13210
Here is the quote from that reference,
and note that it is supported by other references which give
a direct link to Da Costa's syndrome . . ."Fatigue is a
prominent accompaniment of a wide range of disorders, including
acute or chronic infections, end-stage neoplasia, renal insufficiency,
congestive heart failure, and some psychiatric illnesses. It
has been speculated that the severe fatigue associated with neurocirculatory
asthenia, termed irritable heart syndrome by Da Costa1 and soldier's
heart by Lewis2 during World War I, were early descriptions of
the symptoms of orthostatic hypotension.3 The common experience of severe fatigue after
prolonged, exhausting physical labor or exercise and the muscular
symptoms that sometimes accompany chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) have stimulated research on the possible
role of muscular disorders in its causation, but with unconvincing
results. And, of course, a viral origin has been commonly considered
to be a likely cause of chronic fatigue for many years."
Further down the page these words
were written . . . "In 1992, Streeten and Anderson reported
that the most common and most distressing symptom associated
in 6 of 7 patients with a newly recongized form of orthostatic hypotension delayed form evident only after standing for more
than 10 minutes was sever fatigue that improved by reducing orthostatic
hyptension with fludrocortisone acetate"
Toward the end the following
words were written . . . "These finding suggested, as a
working hypothesis, that the combination of delayed orthostatic hypotension (caused by demonstrably excessive orthostatic pooling
of blood in the lower limbs)
associated with reduced circulating erythrocyte mass was causing
fatigue in
some patients by reducing cerebral oxygenation".
The first three of ten REFERENCES
used by Streeten to support those statements were
1. Da Costa JM. On irritable
heart: a clinical study of a form of functional cardiac disorder
and its consequences. Am J Med Sci. 1871;61:17-52.
2. Lewis T. The Soldier's Heart
and the Effort Syndrome. London, England: Shaw & Sons; 1919.
3. Streeten DHP. Orthostatic
Disorders of the Circulation. New York, NY: Plenum; 1987.
That article can be seen in full
here http://www.mindfully.org/Health/Chronic-Fatigue-Syndrome-CFS.htm
Here is a quote from the subpage
that I provided with a comment on the research of Sir James MacKenzie
in 1919, and WhatamIdoing's critical remarks added in red . .
. "In 1916[Formatting wrong] Sir James MacKenzie chaired[citation needed] a major[neutrality disputed] medical conference[citation needed] aimed at[citation needed] gaining a better understanding of the
condition. He
attributed the fatigue to the abnormal pooling of blood in the
abdominal and peripheral veins during exertion, which reduced
blood flow to the brain". here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:WhatamIdoing/Sandbox&diff=prev&oldid=243268880#1900-1919
In his actual research paper,
on page 33, MacKenzie refers to the reduced blood flow to the
brain as causing anemia of the brain. and that "It is because
of this anemia of the brain that the sense of exhaustion and
syncope are provoked", and he adds "I do not enter
here into all the facts which support this explanation of the
sense of exhaustion, as many observers besides myself have
fully dealt with the subject".
Note that
in 1998 Streeten was describing the same features that MacKenzie
discussed in 1919. In particular that the fatigue was associated
with abnormal pooling of blood in the peripheral veins and reduced
blood flow to the brain.
The following quote comes from
WhatamIdoing on the Requests for Arbitration page at 20:25, 27
January 2009, which was an attempt to convince the arbitrators
that I was misrepresenting the reference in J.A.M.A. Note again
that I added at least eight more to verify the information, but
WhatamIdoing doesn't mention that. Here are WhatamIdoing's exact
words . . .
"By "misrepresenting",
I mean, for example, that an op-ed piece[30] whose sole mention
of DCS is this statement: "It has been speculated that the
severe fatigue associated with neurocirculatory asthenia, termed
irritable heart syndrome by Da Costa1 and soldier's heart by
Lewis2 during World War I, were early descriptions of the symptoms
of orthostatic hypotension" has been transmuted in Posturewriter's
draft to say, "In 1998 David Streeten presented an
article in JAMA[16], explaining that the fatigue reported by
Da Costa and Lewis were early descriptions of a "newly recognised"
delayed form of orthostatic hypotension which is a feature of
some types of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome."" here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration&diff=prev&oldid=266981397#Statement_by_WhatamIdoing
You can see that WhatamIdoing
was trying extremely hard to convince the arbitrators that I
was using unreliable references about the link between Da Costa's
syndrome, Orthostatic hypotension, and a type of chronic fatigue
syndrome, however, in fact, I was just responding to the requests
to supply some references that linked Da Costa's syndrome to
the modern era, and I was not misrepreseting anything, but simply
using a modern reference that complied with Wikipedia sourcing
policy.
Summary
WhatamIdoing was insulting me,
and calling my references unreliable, and criticising me relentlessly,
and was being hostile, vindictive and eristic, and arguing for
the sake of arguing, and being disruptive, and showed no intentions
of being co-operative or useful to the development of the page,
but just dictated content which is highly selective and biased,
and violates Wikipedia policy by deleting verifiable information.
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Criticism
of the reliability of my sources
Here are some
of the lies and misrepresentation of facts that WhatamIdoing
posted on the Administrators Noticeboard on 11-1-09 . . .
"all the editor has done this month
is complain that he's not getting his way because I don't agree
that a 1951 book or www.anapsid.org are reliable sources for
current medical information. His last mainspace edits were in
July 2008 (and nearly all of them were reverted as biased, incorrect
and/or outdated), so we're not talking about a particularly valuable
editor." WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:42, 11 January 2009 see
item number 52 here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive506#Personal_attacks
Note that when my two critics insult me
they call it "editing" or "advising", and
when I explain the reasons that I used particular references
and discussed their reliability they put a deliberately insulting
spin on it by calling it "complaining". Note also that
they often advertise, or boast about their own value to Wikipedia
by making remarks about the 5000 edits that they do each year
etc, and have the cheek to say that I am not a "particularly
valuable editor". However, intelligent and mature people
discuss things on the basis of facts and evidence, and do not
lower themselves to personal comments. (For example an experienced
sportsman does not go up to a new player and call him stupid,
or clumsy just because he doesn't mark the ball every time it
is kicked to him - he generally gives words of encouragement
about the advantages of practice and perseverance).
Also note that I had previously told WhatamIdoing
that the 1951 text book was by Harvard Professor Paul Dudley
White who was a world authority on the subject, and that the
reference was to a chapter in his book which dealt with a review
of the topic which complies with the policy for top quality,
and reliable secondary sources in the history sections of topic
pages.
When they said that I should not be adding
my own theory to the topic I modified it once and then they deleted
it again so I stopped adding it, and when they said that my references
were old I simply complied with their request to find modern
ones.
I had also linked to one page on a medical
consumers website, and explained that it was irrelevent to criticise
it on the basis of the other pages on that site.
On 27-1-09 WhatamIdoing gave the following misrepresentation
of the facts about the reliability of my references on
the arbitration page here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration&diff=prev&oldid=266981397#Statement_by_WhatamIdoing
"His complaints about 'moving the
goalposts' are an artifact of trying to address specific problems
one at a time. So Posturewriter cites his own self-published
book (He stopped using the DCS article as a coatrack to publicize
his own theory on Wikipedia when an admin promised to block him
if he does it again), and other editors explain that Wikipedia
relies on properly published materials -- assuming in good faith,
that he's trying to find useful information, and that we don't
need to spell out every single possible characteristic of a good
source over one mistake. So he
then cites, say, a case study involving a single patient, to make sweeping
statements about the condition.
No, we say: major
statements like that need to be supported by a secondary source. So he chooses a properly published secondary
source -- but from
nearly a century ago, and which
is known to disagree
entirely with current scientific consensus.
No, we say: it needs to be a properly published, secondary source
that is reasonably current. The goalposts haven't moved during
this time: I just didn't post complete explanations of all of
the relevant standards in the first message. I also didn't tell
him not to shove beans up his nose, and I doubtless excluded
other important instructions in my first message . . . WhatamIdoing
(talk) 20:25, 27 January 2009"
Note that my critic does
not give the arbitrators
the specific name of
any particular case
study, or link it to the precise reference (which is required by Wikipedia
sourcing policy)
so that the arbitrators
can judge for themselves. However,
it relates to a long running argument about the website of a
patient, and it was compiled in collaboration with four doctors,
and was reference number 15, and can be seen here
http://www.anapsid.org/cnd/diagnosis/names.html . . . This is what WhatamIdoing wrote
about her on the Reliable Sources
Noticeboard on 26-1-09 . . . "Her website is clearly self-published
under Wikipedia's rules. Kaplan has no medical or veterinary
qualifications, and she has not published anything except her
website. She is simply a person interested in the subject because
it affects her own daily life. She is therefore not a
recognized expert in the relevant field.The following four statements
are sourced to a webpage titled "The
disease of a thousand names" on Kaplan's website:
"...(one of the statements is) more
than 80 different theories and labels have been proposed and
scientifically investigated."
WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:17,
26 January 2009
(UTC)
The supposedly
sweeping statement was that there
had been more than
80 different names given to the chronic fatigue syndrome in the history of the research, and that it included
Da Costa's syndrome, which can be seen by scrolling down to the
section called "Alternative
names for Da Costa's syndrome" in the essay here
Notice that there were an additional seventeen references which have four of five synonyms in the introduction,
that I used to support the medical consumers statement about
the large number of labels, and to show the general trace of
terminology thoughout the history. I added the informaion to Wikipedia
several times between January 25th and up to 8:50 on 27-1-09. It was deleted twice each by my two critics,
first by Gordonofcartoon, and then by WhatamIdoing,
who reverted it at 13:06 on 26-1-09, and 18:12 on 27-1-09 here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=266577085&oldid=266514750
. . . and here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=266787024&oldid=266755214
and here with these
words . . . "Rv POV version by COI-blocked editor
using RSN-banned sources such as the personal webpage of a patient"
Fourteen minutes
later WhatamIdoing returned
to the Reliable Sources noticeboard and made the following statemtent
. . . "Posturewriter, this source (Kaplan's) does not meet
Wikipedia's standards. All sources must meet the requirements
of the basic policy. This one does not. If you can provide a
reliable source that includes this information, then the information
may be included. But this source itself may not . . . WhatamIdoing
(talk) 18:26, 27
January 2009 (UTC)
At that time WhatamIdoing was fully aware of the additional references that had been on my subpage for several months, but deliberately
refrained from mentioning them.
This is a quote from
the policy pages about the the type of references that are preferred
by Wikipedia . . .
"In
general, the most reliable sources are peer-reviewed journals
and books published in university presses; university-level textbooks;
magazines, journals, and books published by respected publishing
houses; and mainstream newspapers". See here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Verifiability&diff=314443515&oldid=314435003#Reliable_sources
The complete list of references
that I provided in January 2009 can be seen here.
I have extracted
the references
which contained four or more lables in their introduction, and presented them
below.
1. ^ a b c d
e f g h i j k
l m n o p q r
s t u v w x y
z aa ab ac ad ae af
ag ah ai aj ak al am
an ao White, Paul Dudley (1951). Heart Disease.
New York, New York: MacMillan. pp. 578-591.
6. ^ a b c d Wooley M.D., Charles
F. (2004). "Early Hospitals Devoted to Heart Disease:
Military Heart Hospital at Hampstead, England: World War 1".
American Heart Hospital Journal 2: 175-177. Retrieved
on 8 November 2008.
12. ^ a b c d e f g
h i j k l m n
o p q Howell, Joel (1985). ""Soldier's
heart": the redefinition of heart disease and speciality
formation in early twentieth-century Great Britain.". Medical
History: Supplement No. 5:34-52.
14. ^ a b c
d e f g h i j
k l m n o p q
r s t u v w x
y z Cohen ME, White PD (1951). "Life situations,
emotions, and neurocirculatory asthenia (anxiety neurosis, neurasthenia,
effort syndrome)". Psychosom Med 13 (6): 33557.
PMID 14892184. Retrieved on 28 May 2008.
15. ^ a b c d "The
disease of a thousand names". Retrieved on 2008-10-02 - The
kaplan webpage
16. ^ a b c d e f g
h i j k l m n
o p q r s t u
v w x Wood, Paul (1956). Diseases of the
Heart and Circulation 2nd. revised edition. London: Eyre &
Spottiswoode. pp. 937-947.
17. ^ a b c d e f g
h i j k Fauci, Anthony S.; et al.
(February 2008). Harrison's Principles of Internal Medicine 17th
edition. New York U.S.A.: McGraw-Hill Companies Inc.. pp. 2703=2704.
18. ^ a b c d e f g
h i j k l Lu, Chih-Cherng;
et.al (2004). "Orthostatic Intolerance: Potential Pathophysiology
and Therapy". Chinese Journal of Physiology 47 (3):
102. Retrieved on 3 November 2008.
25. ^ a b c d e Lewis, T.
(1918).
"Observations upon prognosis, with special reference to
a condition described as the "irritable heart of soldiers"".
Lancet i (181-3).
30. ^ a b c d e f g
h i j k l m n
o p q Cohen, Mandel; Paul D. White (May
1947).
"Studies of Breathing, Pulmonary Ventilation and Subjective
Awareness of Shortness of Breath (Dyspnea) in Neurocirculatory
Asthenia, Effort Syndrome, Anxiety Neurosis". The Journal
of Clinical Investigation 26 (3): 520-529. Retrieved on
4 February 2008.
31. ^ a b c d e f g
h i Wooley M.D., Charles F. (May 1976). "Where are
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J.W.; R.B.Logue, R.C.Schlant, N.K.Wenber (1974). The Heart 3rd.
edition. New York: McGraw Hill Book Co.,. pp. 1552-1555.
41. ^ a b c d e f C.Hyams,
M.D., Kenneth; et.al (September 1996). "War Syndromes
and Their Evaluation: From the U.S. Civil War to the Persian
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Inheritance in Man' (OMIM) Orthostatic Intolerance -604715
50. ^ a b c d e f g
h i Whishaw, R. (December 16th 1939). "A Review
of the Physical Condition of Returned Soldiers Suffering from
the Effort Syndrome". The Medical Journal of Australia:
891-893.
56. ^ a b c
Morgan, W.P. (Sept. 1983). "Hyperventilation syndrome: a review".
American Indian Hygiene association Journal 44 (9): 685-689.
Retrieved on 5 November 2008.61.
61. ^ a b MacLean, A.R.; Allen E.V., Magath T.B.
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63. ^ a b "The
Hyperkinetic Heart". The Lancet 318: 967. October
31st. 1981.
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WhatamIdoing
ALSO Ignored the fact that I had started removing the medical
consumers reference
I added more than 60
references to verify the information that I provided about Da
Costa's syndrome. Only one was by a medical consumer, but WhatamIdoing
tried to argue that it was unreliable and that it needed to be
removed. However, it was obvious to me that WhatamIdoing was
just looking for excuses to waste my time in discussion, but
then started telling all of the other editors that it was a reason
for deleting it. I therefore decided to give a full explanation
to the neutral editors at the reliable sources noticeboard about
how I backed it with other references and why I was using it.
I also explained that if they still wanted it removed I would
delete it, and that it wasn't a significant issue for me because
a dozen other references would still show that a large number
of labels had been substituted for DCS during it's history, and
that was all Mellisa Kaplan was essentially saying as evident
from the title of here page "Disease of a thousand names",
which contained a list of eighty. However, WhatamIdoing kept
referring to it as a website about lizards, and that it was a
poor quality source, and that it represented the quality of all
of my other refs, and that it should be deleted and I should
be blocked for using it. Here is part of the discussions from
that time frame where I started deleting the link.
13:06, 27-1-09 . . . The following words were
in the first sentence of the Alternative Names section of the
DCS page with a link to the medical consumers website which was
reference number 15 at 13:06 on 26 January 2009 . . .
"and from a recent website which lists
what it claims are more than eighty synonyms.[15]"here
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=266514750&oldid=266506092#Alternative_names_for_Da_Costa.E2.80.99s_syndrome
8:50, 27-1-09 . . . Note that I started responding to requests from
the Reliable Sources editors by removing that phrase at 8:50 on 27 January 2009 here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=266713530&oldid=266577085#Alternative_names_for_Da_Costa.E2.80.99s_syndrome
18:12, 27-1-09 . . . Note also that WhatamIdoing would have seen
that change but deleted the whole page again anyway nine hours
later at 18:12 on 27 January 2009 with these deceitful words
of explanation "Rv
POV version by COI-blocked editor using RSN-banned sources such
as the personal webpage of a patient" here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=266787024&oldid=266755214
I then tried to add an explanation to the
Reliable Sources Noticeboard to inform the RSN editors that I
had already started deleting the link and would continue to remove
it if they wished. However, I couldn't post it there because
I had been blocked from all content and discussion pages so I
added the following new section to my own UserTalk page and then
asked other editors to inform the RSN editors of it's location.
At 18:26 on
27-1-09 I added the section "Response to Wikipedia:Reliable
sources/Noticeboard and Kaplan's webpage"
Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard
- Sourcing editors from here[133]; Did you notice that I removed
the text related to Kaplan's 80 synonyms in the first sentence
here[134], to show good faith in you, while you considered the
matter further. Also, please note that I could happily remove
the other three links to Kaplan because there are another dozen
WP:MEDRS refs earlier in the sentence which each have five synonyms
in their introduction, and one of them has 10 on it's own, and
the combined total probably amounts to more than 20. Could you
please also take into account that I was giving support to a
medical consumer who made a genuine contribution, but that the
article didn't really need it. The 12 references that I use to
support one statement in one sentence, exceed the total number
that WhatamIdoing has added to the existing page in 12 months.
Also, notice that WhatamIdoing is criticising me without reading
the diff or noticing that I deleted the main problem text before
replacing it to the article page at 18:26 on 27-1-09 here[135]
18:12, 27-1-09 . . .
One minute
later WhatamIdoing wrote these words on the Da Costa's talk page with these words "I note that Posturewriter declined to remove the unreliable
source after being informed that (despite his arguments) every
editor at RSN opposed the use of a personal webpage in this article"
here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=266789799&oldid=266722358#Da_Costa_Article_page_text_replaced_with_the_text_from_the_Posturewriter.2FDaCostaDraft
(The deceitful nature of WhatamIdoing's
words relate to the fact that reliable sources guidelines do
not ban medical consumers websites but recommends that some in
particular, such as medical journals, are preferred, and that
any references may be used if they are appropriate or reliable.
Also, the editors on the Reliable Sources Noticeboard were discussing
the reference and had not banned it. Note also that I was blocked
from adding my explanations to that noticeboard before I had
time to give my response to WhatamIdoing's incessant criticism
so any discussion after that was "ONE SIDED" BIASED
and UNBALANCED, which is typical of WhatamIdoing's ways of manipulating
the impressions that other editors get and RIGGING the outcome
of discussions).
15:36, 28-1-09 . . . WhatamIdoing then contacted several editors
by email and one of them named Moreschi interrupted the arbitration
page and banned me at 15:36, 28 January 2009 here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration&diff=prev&oldid=266981397
At 8:24 on 2-2-09 I
tried to post the following words on the Reliable Sources Noitceboard
for the Sourcing editors to see but found that I was still blocked,
so I placed them on my Usertalk page with a request to let the
RSN editors know about it. These were the words to the RSN editors
. . .
"WhatamIdoing was editing the Da Costa's
syndrome page a year ago when it had only four lines of text
and no references here[136], and is currently editing this one
about Postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome [137], and here
is the Da Costa page of 27-1-09 [138], and here is my subpage
text which I used to replace the article page on 27-1-09[139]
for you to make sourcing quality
comparisons. Now that I have explained the matter, would you
still like me to remove the other three links to Kaplans page?"
Posturewriter (talk) 08:24, 2 February
2009 (UTC)posturewriter
You can see what I did to reach compromises
with other editors, or resolve disputes, but WhatamIdoing did
not give a dam about discussion or policy and was just being
as disruptive as possible, and kept on relentlessly inventing
excuses to ignore everything explanation I gave, and delete everything
I wrote, and get me blocked.
More
Counter Criticism
Another editor supplied a reference to
Oglesby Paul's 1987
article on the history of Da Costa's
syndrome so I reviewed it. That reference was number 7 on the
Da Costa's page at 18:12 on 27-1-09 here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=266787024&oldid=266755214#References
and it was still
there in early June 2009. These
words can be seen in the first paragraph . . . "Originally
identified in men in wartime, it has been widely recognised as
a common chronic condition in both sexes in civilian life".
At 3:38 on 29-5-08 WhatamIdoing supplied
reference number 4 to a website??? that includes a "RARE Disease Database" here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=next&oldid=215582534
Note that the database includes Da Costa's
syndrome in it's list. However the label may be rarely used
nowadays but THE RELEVANT FACT is that the condition is still
common and the
contradiction is OBVIOUS.
My critics also provided links to a book
called Soldier's Heart, which I reviewed and found to be a children's fiction novel that did not contain any descriptions of the typical
DCS symptoms.
My critics also only
supplied about 12 of the current 18 references compared to my
60.
My crtics were trying to focus attention
on some supposed faults in a small number of my references,
because they didn't want anyone to notice faults in their own,
or the fact that I supplied a better quality and quantity and
range of references.
*******
According to my
two critics contributors are not allowed to their my own research
to wikipedia because it violates WP:MEDRS (is not an acceptable
reliable source for medical articles). They later said that the
items had to be references involving reviews of many researchers,
not just an article on one persons research, and then it had
to be from a top quality peer reviewed research journal, not
just an ordinary journal or an article by a non-expert researcher,
and then it couldn't be old but had to be published in the past
two years.
Here is an example
of Gordonofcartoons attempt to argue with me on the basis of his "reliable source" . It is a reference to a newsmagazine article
about a children's fiction novel, written by a children's fiction
author and published in 1998 . . . here were his words
"Incidentally, a reliable source - the New York
Times review cited from Soldier's Heart (novel), [86] (you'll need a Bugmenot login) - says of the book that Goddard's ... life
is shattered by what we now call post-traumatic stress disorder
and what was then known as soldier's heart. Gordonofcartoon
(talk) 14:10, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
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Another
example of my critics claiming that I am wrong while their own
references support the information that I provide from different
and varied sources
In
December
2007 I added
some information about my own theory and research to the DaCosta's
syndrome page. The
research
involved a
programme of exercising within limits to improve the general
fitness levels of the volunteers. Since then all of the information has
been deleted by my two critics and all of my contributions have
been described as non-notable, original research, nonsense, and
crap.
At 18:25 on 30-5-08 Gordonofcartoon wrote this explanation on the Da Costa's talk
page . . . "I think it's worth going to more secondary
and tertiary souces, since selecting primary sources always
raises issues of the fairness of choice. There are a couple
of overviews in Oxford Companion to Medicine (reliable, yes?"
He followed it with this quote from that
book . . .
"During the American Civil War J. M. DaCosta
described a syndrome in soldiers who had what were apparently cardiac
symptoms such as chest pain and palpitation but who in fact had
normal hearts. This condition, often called 'irritable heart'
or 'soldiers' heart', caused so much invalidism among British
soldiers in World War I that a special heart hospital, directed
by Thomas Lewis, had to be set up to deal with it. Lewis
re-named it the 'effort syndrome' because
the symptoms occurred on exertion and he devised a remedial system of physical
exercises which enabled over 35
000 men to be returned to active service. . . . Arthur H. Crisp "cardiology - history"
The Oxford Companion to Medicine. Stephen Lock, John M. Last,
and George Dunea. Oxford University Press 2001". Gordonofcartoon (talk) 18:25, 30 May 2008 here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Da_Costa%27s_syndrome/Archive_1#Names_for_this_phenomenon
At 21:21 on 5-10-08
WhatamIdoing cut and pasted the account of Da Costa's syndrome
that I prepared on my subpage, and subjected it to 80 nitpicking
criticisms such as this one where my text is highlighted in black,
and WhatamIdoin's request for a citation is shown in red. . .
"Other treatments evident from the previous studies were
. . . appropriate
levels of exercise where possible,[citation needed][original
research?] here
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:WhatamIdoing/Sandbox&diff=prev&oldid=243268880#Treatment
In the following
months I added three citations to support that statement on my
subpage text (references numbers 12, 17 and 50, - J.Howell 1985,
Harrison's Principles of Internal Medicine 2008, and still the
current edition, and R.Whishaw 1939) here
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WhatamIdoing
deliberately and repeatedly tried to make my theory look ridiculous
by oversimplifying it.
On 6-10-08 WhatamIdong made these comments to Avnjay about the early
drafts of my subpage text . . ."Perhaps more importantly,
this draft seriously overemphasizes the body posture aspects
(you remember that Posturewriter has self-published a thousand-page
book on his personal theory that people with heart palpitations and fatigue
would feel better if they exercised and stood up straight, right?) and it ignores or downplays all the DCS-related
people that don't agree with him . . . but you can't fix nerves by lifting weights" WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:27, 6 October 2008 here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:WhatamIdoing/Archive_2
On 11-1-09 WhatamIdoing
made these ridiculous statements about my references . . . "The
editor is an agenda editor (standing up straight cures disease, and now Da Costa's syndrome is a type of Chronic
fatigue syndrome because someone that runs an iguana website
said so" . . . That quote can be seen in item number 52
of the Administrators Noticeboard here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive506#Personal_attacks
Note that I was not an "agenda editor",
and WhatamIdoing ensured that everything that I wrote in Wikipedia
was deleted, not just the Da Costa information, so it was not
worth my while to waste time on other topics.
Also note that WhatamIdoing is being deliberately
insulting by saying that, according to my theory, all you have
to do to cure disease is stand up straight and lift weights -
which is not only a ridiculous oversimplification, but is also
the wrong type of exercise.
Also note that Harvard Professor Paul Dudley
White, who studied this subject for more than fifty years, described
Da Costa's syndrome as "a kind of fatigue syndrome . . .
and . . . in some cases it is more or less a chronic condition".
I also provided about a dozen other top
quality references for that statement, and only one from a medical consumers specific webpage about Myalgic Encephalomyelitis and the Chronic
Fatigue Syndrome, and not because there was other material on
other pages on that website.
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On 25-1-09
I transferred the text of my subpage to the DCS page and the
whole lot was deleted twice by Gordonofcartoon and once by WhatamIdoing
as I reverted their
deletions, as can be seen here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&action=history
On 26-1-09 WhatamIdoing has also written a series of ridiculous
lies about my sources on the Da Costa's talk page e.g. "Posturewriter has instead relied on his own interpretation
of primary sources instead of basing
the history section around good secondary sources that directly
address the relevant history. WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:14, 26 January
2009 etc. here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Da_Costa%27s_syndrome#Da_Costa_Article_page_text_replaced_with_the_text_from_the_Posturewriter.2FDaCostaDraft
On 27-1-09 an orderly arbitration process
involving 12 editors was suddenly interrupted by Moreschi who
banned me.
Gordonofcartoon thanked
him on his talk page soon after, and has since referred to Moreschi
as "the cavalry" (one of his members of an
edit war ), and WhatamIdoing provided him with an outlaw halo award for the same reason some months later.
Summary: On 30-5-08 Gordonofcartoon used a reference (which he emphasised
is a reliable secondary source) to support an earlier argument
about synonyms, and it also INADVERTENTLY contained information
about the effectiveness of an exercise programme. Eight months
later WhatamIdoing, who tries to give the impression
of having authoritative knowledge of the subject, played dumb about the benefits
of exercise, misrepresented the type of exercise that I recommended
(which does not include strenuous activity such as "lifing
weights"), and argued against the value of exercise. I then provided three citations
to verify the statement, and WhatamIdoing just kept on finding
faults and telling ridiculous lies about the reliability of my
references until I was banned.
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Extreme
Double Standards in the interpretation of reliable sources policy
They
replaced my Paul Dudley White (1951) reference with their Paul
Dudley White 1951 (reference)???
When I wrote a subpage
text for Da Costa's syndrome it contained more than 60 reliable
references, which included Paul Dudley White's 1951 reference
book for cardiologists
which was distributed to medical universities throughout the
world. In chapter 22 he reviewed all aspects of the research.
My two critics described it as a unreliable source of
information because, in their "opinion", it was
just an ordinary book that was "old" and
"published before most editors were born".
However, when they deleted
my subpage text they replaced it with a much smaller article
which they supported by only 18 references, and one of theirs was written by the same author, Paul Dudley White and his regular collaborator, Mandel E.Cohen and was published in the same
year.
Here are the
details . . .
My reference (which I cited 35 times to verify
35 statements in my text ) Number 4. ^
a b c d
e f g h
i j k l
m n o p
q r s t
u v w x
y z aa ab
ac ad ae af
ag ah White, Paul Dudley (1951). Heart
Disease. New York, New York: MacMillan. pp. 578-591. see
here 8:50
on 27-1-09 here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=266713530&oldid=266577085#References
Their reference (which they cited only once to
verify only one of the statements in their text) Cohen ME, White PD (1951). "Life situations, emotions,
and neurocirculatory asthenia (anxiety neurosis, neurasthenia,
effort syndrome)". Psychosom Med 13 (6): 33557.
PMID 14892184. See 18:12 on 27-1-09 here http://www.psychosomaticmedicine.org/cgi/pmidlookup?view=long&pmid=14892184
Essentially what they were
doing was going through my 60 references and saying "we"
like this one so "we" will keep it, but "we"
don't like those ten so "we" will delete them etc,
until they had an article that supported "their" point
of view, and then they accused "me" of cherrypicking
information to push my point of view????
By contrast, when they
"occasionally" provided different references I added
them to my list of 60 to include "all" points of view,
even though I didn't agree with theirs, and I did it because
it was an article for Wikipedia which had policies that required
"Neural point of view". re: when in Rome do as the
Romans do!
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More
DOUBLE STANDARDS in the criticism of the Reliability of the References
that I used
An editor started a discussion on the Reliable
Sources Noticeboard with the heading "Sources appropriate
for medical and health-related articles", and then another
editor started a sub-section to discuss the reliability of one
particular author named Khiefet, and at 17:14 on 18-8-09
WhatamIdoing gave a personal opinion.
I have used an extract below to show the
words of the editor who created the section, followed by WhatamIdoing's reply
At 16:38 on 18-8-09 Garrondo wrote . .
. "I have created an specific subsection for the question
on weather the author can or cannot be considered an expert to
ease commentaries. I have asked for specific input in the medicine
project".--[[User:Garrondo]] 16:38, 18 August 2009
At 17:14 on 18-8-09 WhatamIdoing
gave this reply with an edit note . . . "Usability of
Keiffets review: Obviously an expert" . . . and these
words . . .
'''Definitely
an expert'''. She was the head of the
radiation program for the [[World Health Organization]], and she's now a professor of epidemiology
at UCLA, and there's still some question about whether she's
an expert on the epidemiology of radiation? She was on the radiation
standards safety committee for the [[IAEA]]], and we're asking
whether she might know a thing or two about the harmful effects
of radiation? She's been on the International Committee on
Non-Ionizing Radiation Protection (ICNIRP)'s Standing Committee
on Epidemiology since 2001, and we're wondering if she might
know something about the epidemiology of non-ionizing radiation?
She's published
dozens of papers, including papers
about this specific risk factor in several different diseases.
<br />''Of
course she's an expert on the epidemiology
of radiation.'' Khiefets is ''exactly'' the kind of person that
Wikipedia should be using as a source. I can't even imagine
a more appropriate source. (Having said that, her status as an expert still
doesn't authorize editors to exceed the usual conservative, "obvious
to the non-expert" reading of her paper.) WhatamIdoing|talk]])" 17:14, 18 August 2009 here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=308716845
Note that WhatamIdoing is determining the
reliability of the information by referring to Khiefets personal
background and experience with regard to the number of committees
she has been on or headed, the number of articles she has published,
and the number of years that she has been involved - since 2001
- 8 years.
I will end this introduction by
highlighting WhatamIdoing's
words .
. .
"I
can't even imagine a more appropriate source"
*********
Here
are some authors who have had much more experience in their field
of study
WhatamIdoing has been highly critical of
my sources of information so I would like to help the other editors
on the Reliable Sources Noticeboard by solving WhatamIdoing's
mystery about who is a more appropriate source of reliable information
for medical topics.
The topic in this example is the history
of Da Costa's syndrome. Here are some much more reliable
sources of medical information that I used . . .
Firstly, J.M. DaCosta, whose 1871 paper
was responsible for 150 years of research that followed,
secondly Sir James MacKenzie, Sir William Osler,
and Sir Thomas Lewis, who were knighted for their contributions
to medicine, and who all had a major influence on the early
study of Da Costa's syndrome. MacKenzie was described as one
of the giants of the British school of cardiology who played
a pivotal role in this research, and Lewis gave it the
lable of "Effort Syndrome" which became one of
the most commonly used diagnoses. Another source was Paul Wood
O.B.E. who studied and lectured on this subject, and became
the Director of the Institute of Cardiology at the National
Hosptial for Diseases of the Heart, London, and Paul Dudley
White who studied the subject for fifty years and was
also an emeritus professor of Harvard, and a founder
and a president of the American Heart Association, and Harvard
professor Oglesby Paul, who was also a president of the
American Heart Association, and who published a biography
of Paul Dudley White. I also provided references to the journal
articles and books of Charles Wooley from 1976, 1990,
2002, and 2004. They are just seven authors from a list of
sixty references that I provided.
According to WhatamIdoing Sir James MacsKenzie was just an ordinary
doctor who walked in off the street and attended an ordinary
meeting, Paul Dudley White's 1951 book was old and out-of-date,
and Oglesby Paul was just some guy who wrote a routine
review about Da Costa's syndrome, and all of those authors
were unimportant in the history of the topic, and all of my references
were unreliable.
Note that WhatamIdoing was misrepresenting
the facts about those authors in order to discredit them, but
I am not going to do the same to Khiefet. I am merely
providing evidence that WhatamIdoing's assessment of the reliability
of sources is full of bias and extreme contradictions.
See more information about MacKenzie here and the list of more than 60
References that I provided here
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Wikipedia talk:Reliable
sources (medicine-related articles) Discussion
When writing articles
for Wikipedia their policy recommends that "secondary sources"
of information which are 'reviews' of the literature, are preferred
to "primary sources" which are articles about original
research, and "tertiary sources" which are text-books
and encyclopedia's see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources#Primary.2C_secondary.2C_and_tertiary_sources
Consequently, after
a few months of experience I learned of that policy and so started
using reviews of the literature as references to verify the information
that I provided to the topic pages.
Note also . . .
On 23 August 2009
WhatamIdoing gave the following opinion to other editors on
the Wikipedia Reliable Sources talk page where decisions about
the type of references to be used are discussed and decided upon.
These were WhatamIdoing's words
about another medical topic . . . "It's true that basic
physiological processes aren't usually the subject of recent
[[literature review]]s, but there are other excellent [[secondary source]]s available, such as college and medical school textbooks.
It's also worth remembering that [[WP:PSTS|the preference for secondary sources]]
isn't something dreamed up on this page: it is a Wikipedia-wide
standard that all articles should comply with, regardless of
subject matter." [[User:WhatamIdoing]] 23:50, 23 August 2009 here
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Reliable_sources_(medicine-related_articles)&diff=prev&oldid=309688168
However, seven months earlier,
WhatamIdoing deleted the article that I provided for this reason
"Rv POV version by COI-blocked editor using RSN-banned
sources such as the personal webpage of a patient" here
on 27-1-09, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=266787024&oldid=266755214,
and implied, or referred to all of my sources
as unreliable on many pages, including the Arbitration page where
I was banned. These were some of the comments . . . "Posturewriter's
use of references frequently, perhaps even usually, does not
meet Wikipedia's basic standards" and "The article's
history is full of edit wars as he tries to force unreliable
and misrepresented sources into it."
Note that I used the following
books as references for the history of the Da Costa's syndrome.
. . "The Soldier's Heart and the Effort Syndrome" (1919)
and a second edition of it (1940), and "Diseases of the
Heart", 2nd edition (1937). All three were written by Sir
Thomas Lewis. I also included "Heart Disease" (1951)
by Paul Dudley White, "Diseases of the Heart and Circulation"
2nd edition (1956), by Paul Wood, and "The Irritable Heart
of Soldier's and the Origin's of Anglo American Cardiology"
(2002) by Charles Wooley etc. Note also that Paul Dudley White's,
and Paul Wood's books were university textbooks for medical students and internationally
distributed reference books for cardiologists, and contain chapters that review the topic of
Da Costa's syndrome, and are therefore "secondary sources",
and the other books contain reviews of the literature on the
topic, and also met the standards of policy that requires"secondary
sources"and that all of the books are available in Universities
internationally and can be easlly obtained and read to verify the information.
Note that WhatamIdoing was never
interested in discussing anything, but simply mouthed empty words
of intention and used a whole range of policies as excuses to
delete everything I wrote on every page e.g. see here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:WhatamIdoing/Sandbox&diff=prev&oldid=243268880#Da_Costa.E2.80.99s_Syndrome
Note also this quote from the policy
pages which indicates that I was providing relevant references
. . . "In
general, the most reliable sources are peer-reviewed journals
and books published in university presses; university-level textbooks;
magazines, journals, and books published by respected publishing
houses; and mainstream newspapers". See here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Verifiability&diff=314443515&oldid=314435003#Reliable_sources
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Reliable Sources in Wikipedia?????
Would you believe
anything that my two critics wrote in Wikipedia???? (and would
you call their information and advice reliable???)
From the early time in the dispute my critics
revealed their pompous "know all" attitude when they
described Da Costa's syndrome as "garden variety" orthostatic
intolerance and hyperventilation syndrome. When they discussed Rosen's research paper on hyperventilation syndrome one of them said that it was the same
as the effort syndrome and the other said it wasn't. When I added a brief review of Oglesby Pail's
history of DCS they replaced it with one sentence about anxiety.
When I included information about the history of DCS from references
published between 1863 to 1980 my critics deleted most of them
on the grounds that they were "out-of-date", so I checked
the policy related to the history sections of medical articles,
and other medical topics, and found that older references were
acceptable, and in common use. When they moved a link for a novel
called Soldier's Heart to the top of the DCS page I asked them
to give me page numbers from that book where the symptoms of
DCS were mentioned and they changed the subject and didn't answer
the question. When I told them that it was inappropriate to give
that label undue prominence by placing it at the top of the page
they argued that it belonged their because of hatnote policy.
After I was banned two different editors deleted the hatnote,
and the link to the label. During an RFC process one of my critics
encouraged other editors to act as if they had authority which
they didn't actually have. Finally, while they were criticising
my contributions they claimed to be giving objective, rule-abiding
advice, but after I was banned one of them lost their temper
on the POV/CIVIL pushing page and expressed relief by using foul
language. Four months later the other one thanked an editor for
breaking the rules of Wikipedia to get me banned, and saving
them from tearing their hair out.
If my two critics add information,
and control content in Wikipedia, and break the rules of Wikipedia,
would you regard .
. .
Wikipedia
as a Reliable Source?????
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The
reliability of my critics sources??????
When I first saw the Da Costa's page in
Wikipedia it had no references - NONE, so I started adding some
until the total exceeded sixty, and my critics were falsely and
incessantly referring to them as unreliable according to their
deliberate misinterpretation of MEDRS policy. They spent most
of their time focussing attention on a medical consumers site
which I added for NPOV, and Paul White's, who studied the subject
for 50 years, and they said his evidence (whch I put in the history section) were an unreliable source - of modern opinion????
Another one io the sixty references that
I added was J.M.DaCosta's original 1871 research
paper which is ESSENTIAL to understanding the subject. (my critics
didn't put it there before me because their idea about reliable
references for history sections are the paragraphs they get from
dictionaries and websites, and the history articles that have
been written in their favorite modern journals)
The following words come from J.M.Da Costa's
first paragraph, which were THE FIRST WORDS EVER WRITTEN ON THE
TOPIC.
"In this paper I propose to consider
a form of cardiac malady COMMON among soldiers . . . Much of what I am about to say I could duplicate
from the experience of PRIVATE PRACTICE."
One of the small number of references that
was provided by my critics was by Oglesby Paul in 1987, which I was familiar with, so I reviewed it for
Wikipedia. The following words come from the first paragraph.
"The syndrome variously called Da
Costa's syndrome . . . has been studied for more than 100 years
by many distinguished physicians. Originally identified in men
in wartime, it has been WIDELY RECOGNISED
as a COMMON chronic condition in both sexes in CIVILIAN life"
Oglesby also wrote on page 311 . . . "Cohen
and White reported that 2-4% of the population had this disorder".
Note also that Oglesby Paul, Cohen, and
White, were prominent U.S. researchers, and that 2-4% of the U.S. population
of 200 million would
be four
to eight million.
One of the references
used by my critics was the RARE DISEASES DATA BASE
on an internet
webpage : see reference number
4 here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=266787024&oldid=266755214#References
This is Wikipedia's definition from it's
"Rare Disease" topic page . . . "A rare disease
. . . is any
disease that is
not common. Typically, a rare disease
has such a low prevalence in a population that a physician in
a busy general practice would not expect to see more than one case a year" . . . and . . . "In the United States of America, the
Rare Disease Act of 2002 defines rare disease strictly according to prevalence, as "any
disease or condition that affects less than 200,000 persons in the United
States,"[2] or about 1 in
1,500 people. here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rare_disease&diff=299958933&oldid=299949371
My
critics use of a reference to the RARE DISEASES DATA BASE for
Da Costa's syndrome is RIDICULOUS
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Summary:
My critics have a track record of starting arguments with me
after they have only read the title of a book (Soldier's Heart),
or the first paragraph of a research paper (Rosen's), and thinking
that it makes them experts on the subject. In this example they
have not even bothered to read the first sentence of the most
relevant and reliable reference in the 130 years of history of
the topic (J.M. Da Costa's original paper published in 1871).
Here
is my response to their false inference that their own sources
are reliable
Harvard
professor Oglesby Paul's words of 1987
"WIDELY
RECOGNISED" AS "COMMON"
DO
NOT MEAN
"RARE"
Q.E.D.
My
critics appear to lack the intelligence required to determine
the difference between the condtion of DaCosta's syndrome, which
is still common, and the label of Da Costa's syndrome, which
is rarely used nowadays RE: if you can't find the term Da Costa's
syndrome in modern text books, it doesn't mean that the common
condition has ceased to exist.
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More
evidence of the Unreliability of the References used by my critics????
Note that my two critics
did not give a reference to verify the first sentence on the
Da Costa's page, or even the entire first section, and they used
reference number nine (relating to Selhein Neuhof) to support
the statement in the "Symptoms" section. They have
falsely accused me of only using references that were "old",
but in their own case, Neuhof's article was first published in
1917. Some of the information that he provided about exercise
was contradictory, and other statements were made while failing
to distinguish several different conditions, and are ACTUALLY
WRONG. Neuhof also stated that there was no evidence of cardiovascular
disease, which is a lot different to saying that there is no
physical abnormalities at all. He also states that there is no
flouroscopic evidence of abnormalities in the heart, but it has
since been established that there is flouroscopic evidence of
faulty function of the thoracic diaphram. He also states that
"reassurance about the heart is the mainstay of treatment".
Needless to say that if a person has chest pain, he is unlikely
to believe a doctor who advises him that there is nothing wrong
with his heart - just because a doctor says so, unless he has
a credible explanation, such as telling him that it is due to
strain on the muscles between the ribs. e.g.
see here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=266787024&oldid=266755214#Symptoms
Note also that my critics try to justify
the reliability of their references by emphasising that they
use medical dictionaries. Dictionaries contain up to 2000 pages
of definitions that are mostly only one sentence, or one paragraph
for each, and they change from one edition to the next, and are
different from the definitions found in other medical dictionaries
for copyright reasons, and can, and often do contain misleading
wording. My clitics also used the World Health Organsiation as
an example of reliability, however they are only one of many
official organisations and need to be taken in that context.
They also don't seem to understand that
the words as defined by physicians do not mean the same as they
are understood by patients. For example when a doctor says there
is nothing organically, or physically wrong with them, the patient
thinks that there is no way of explaining their symptoms, when
in fact there are dozens of physical signs, and a lot of physical
evidence to explain them.
My two critics also don't seem to understand
the fundamental principle of Wikipedia of gaining information
from all sources, not just medical journals. The authors of such
journals have their own views and are often influenced by the
organisations that fund the research, which is why some journals,
for ethical reasons, require their contributors to declare the
source of their funds.
Wikipedia is supposed to overcome all of
those problems by deriving all knowledge from all sources, but
when you look at the policies you can see where that neutrality
is diminished. A good example is where I provided a link to a
medical consumer's webpage that was compiled in collaboration
with four doctors, to give some NPOV input, and my critics not
only criticised it for being unreliable according to MEDRS policy,
but also tried to discredit that person by making irrelevant
comments about other sections of their website, and by repeatedly
implying that all medical consumers were an unreliable source,
regardless of the merit and independent verifiability of their
information e.g. At 23:04, 11 January 2009 here here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Disruptive_editing#WhatamIdoing.E2.80.99s_Blitz_Krieg_-_Disruptive_Editing.3F.
Note also that it was only one of my 65
references, but my critics were trying to imply that because
it was from a consumer, all the others were unreliable, which
is ridiculous
My two critics
do not appear to understand the difference between a reliable
reference, a reliable dictionary,
reliable wording, a reliable organisation, a reliable history,
and a reliable encyclopedia, and a properly balanced representation of all reliable
points of view. They just think
that their own "opinion" about reliability, or their
own "interpretation" of Wikipedia reliability policy,
or a specific sub-clause, is reliable, if it suits their own
bias at the time. If it doesn't they make changes, or add ambiguities
to the policy so that it can be more easily interpreted to suit
anything they want in the future. . . . Hence, allowing "editorial
judgment" to over-ride policy helps them to get their way,
AND, the ridiculous and absurd "ignore all rules" policy
gives them the capacity to justify the bad judgment that they
think gives them the right to tell lies and cheat. They DID NOT
DISCUSS - they nittered and nattered to create the illusion of
discussion while THEY DICTATED content.
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The
Repeated Pattern of Lies used by my critics about reliable sources
Wikipedia:Reliable
sources (medicine-related articles) . . . Use up-to-date evidence:
The exact
words from the policy relating to medical articles are . . .
"Here are some rules of thumb
for keeping an article up-to-date while maintaining the more-important
goal of reliability . . . Look for reviews published in the last
five years or so, preferably in the last two or three years.
The range of reviews examined should be wide enough to catch
at least one full review cycle, containing newer reviews written
and published in the light of older ones and of more-recent primary
studies.
These are just rules of thumb. There are exceptions:. . . History
sections often cite older work, for obvious reasons" here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Reliable_sources_(medicine-related_articles)&diff=301215071&oldid=301210167#Use_up-to-date_evidence
5-10-08 WhatamIdoing wrote this deliberate
misinterpretation of sourcing policy to an editor name Avnjay
. . .
Avnjay, I realize that you're not
competent in the subject matter . . . he (Posturewriter) lists
the same thoroughly outdated (1951!) textbook eighteen separate
times The most recent source is eleven years old (see WP:MEDRS#Use_up-to-date_evidence
-- and it is about Chronic fatigue syndrome, not Da Costa's.
Would you like a detailed response? WhatamIdoing (talk) 16:15,
5 October 2008
(Note that Paul Dudley White was the most
prominent expert in the history of the subject. and that he was
the author of the 1951 text book. Also note that WhatamIdoing
was supposed to be co-operating by providing modern references
if required, but did nothing but criticise and disrupt the process,
so I had to do it myself and the final list of references totalled
65, and more than a dozen were from the period 1998 to 2009).
5-10-09 WhatamIdoing wrote these deliberately misleading
words on a Sandbox page . . . "This article explains, in
excessive detail, the opinions of carefully selected researchers
from half a century ago. It should not be mistaken for the modern
medical understanding of this condition". here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:WhatamIdoing/Sandbox&diff=prev&oldid=243268880#Da_Costa.E2.80.99s_Syndrome
Note that the early history of the article
was never meant to explain the modern view, and that I did explain
the modern ideas later in the same article - and WhatamIdoing
knew that.
6-10-08 The independent and neutral editor named Avnjay wrote these honest and accurate words
of advice to WhatamIdoing's
talk page
. . . A large part of his (Posturewriters) article is
on the history of the syndrome hence all the old sources (an
exception in [[WP:MEDRS#Use_up-to-date_evidence]]). [[User:Avnjay| 15:26, 6 October 2008 here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:WhatamIdoing&diff=243447512&oldid=243362701
11-1-09 WhatamIdoing wrote these deliberately misleading
words on the Disruptive Editing page . . . "Posturewriter,
the place to convince people that a 1951 book conforms with WP:MEDRS#Use_up-to-date_evidence
for current medical and scientific information . . . is at WP:RSN,
not here" WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:04, 11 January 2009 here
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Disruptive_editing&diff=299452881&oldid=296934378#WhatamIdoing.E2.80.99s_Blitz_Krieg_-_Disruptive_Editing.3F
12-1-09 I then posted this reply the following day . .
. "WhatamIdoing; Avnjay is already aware that Paul Dudley
White's book is relevant here[17], so I don't have to convince
him of anything. This page is about disruptive editing"
Posturewriter (talk) 07:01, 12 January 2009 (UTC)posturewriter
27-1-09 WhatamIdoing continued to misrepresent the book,
and the way I used it in the history section with these words
. . . "seriously outdated materials (a 1951 textbook is
cited thirty-four times in his preferred draft WhatamIdoing (talk)
20:25, 27 January 2009 here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration&diff=prev&oldid=266981397#Statement_by_WhatamIdoing
Note 1. WhatmaIdoing is being ridiculous by referring to
the subpage as my preferred draft, because the whole purpose
was to get everyone involved, including WhatamIdoing who was
invited to do a draft as well, so that neutral editors could
then merge them to represent "neutral point of view"
instead of having the page continue as WhatamIdoing's personal
dictatorship. However, WhatamIdoing was deliberately refusing
to co-operate with that process by deliberately not doing a draft,
and then deliberately disrupting mine, and deliberately interfering
with the neutral editing process. That deliberate and calculated
interference included referring to the neutral editor as "incompetent",
and then spending months making derisive and insulting remarks
about me, and then relentlessly nitpicking every word I wrote
to persuade him to stop co-operating with me. see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:WhatamIdoing/Archive_2#Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment.2FPosturewriter
Note 2. Avnjay was the neutral editor who started in Wikipedia
in July
2007 (see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Avnjay)
and had almost a full year of experience editing and policy before
making comments as an outsider on the Request for comments page
on 21-7-08 about the Da Costa's discussion. He participated
in discussions on that page for a month until 30-8-09 and later started co-operating with me on the
sub-page text on 2-10-09, and described my text as being much better than
the existing page there, and again on WhatamIdoing's own talk
page on 5-10-08 here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:WhatamIdoing/Archive_2#Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment.2FPosturewriter
Note that WhatamIdoing did not make any
comments about Avnjay's competence until a few hours after he
described my article with these words . . . "To be honest,
in my opinion, it's actually a lot better" than the existing
version.
It is perfectly clear that WhatamIdoing
was reacting out of spite, and that if it wasn't for the incessant
petty criticism that followed, the article described by an independent
and neutral editor as "a lot better" would have been
used as a replacement for the existing text. At that stage sensible
unbiased editors could have added to it or modified it in an
appropriate manner. They could have discussed, abbreviated, or
improved various sections of the history, and the relation to
modern views, without needing to vandalise the page with the
massive slab deletion of important, relevant, and independently
verifiable facts..
Note 3. WhatamIdoing has a record of more than 18000 edits
in more than 4 years, and acts with the tone and manner of a
dictator when discussing medical topics and medical referencing
policy, however, when I mentioned that WhatamIdoing was not a
health care professional Gordonofcartoon gave this pompous and
sanctimonious defense . . .
"not
a healthcare professional . . . Did I say anything about being a healthcare
professional? I said "medical editor" - one who routinely
edits on medical topics here, and hence is thoroughly conversant with aspects
such as WP:MEDRS.
Gordonofcartoon (talk) 10:25, 27 January 2009" on the Da
Costa's talk page here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=266789799&oldid=266722358#Da_Costa_Article_page_text_replaced_with_the_text_from_the_Posturewriter.2FDaCostaDraft
It is obvious to me that WhatamIdoing was
fully conversant with Wikipedia medical referencing policy, so
Gordonofcartoon was being insolent and offensive by trying to
create the ridiculous false impression that I didn't know that.
It is equally obvious that WhatamIdoing had been deliberately
deceitful in interpreting policy. For example this is the version
of policy about medical references which I was told that I must
comply with and it states . . . "Use up-to-date evidence
. . . Here are some rules of thumb for keeping an article up-to-date
while maintaining the more-important goal of reliability . .
. Look for reviews published in the last five years or so, preferably
in the last two or three years".
However, this is the actual section of
policy that is relevant and that WhatamIdoing DELIBERATELY FAILED
TO MENTION, and that I found by reading the full policy myself
. . . "These are just rules of thumb. There are exceptions
. . . History sections often cite
older work, for obvious reasons.
see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:MEDRS#Use_up-to-date_evidence
When I mentioned the correct, relevant
interpretation of policy WhatamIdoing DELIBERATELY ignored me
and went to more pages to repeat the same lies to other editors
who hadn't seen my explanation. In fact WhatamIdoing told so
many lies at such a rapid rate, that I couldn't get to respond
to them before discussions were closed, or I was banned, and
I can still find evidence of more lies six months later.
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HISTORY ACCORDING
TO MY WIKIPEDIA CRITICS????
When I first saw a page about Da Costa's
Syndrome in Wikipedia, it had an invitation for members of the
public to improve it, and soon after I started, another editor
set up a section called History. Some time later I added the
reference to J.M.Da Costa's original research paper of 1871 because
it had not been provided by anyone else.
I also provided the article with 60 references
to describe the history from 1864 to 2008. My two critics deleted
most of them on the grounds that they were "old", "seriously outdated",
"entirely superseded", or "from nearly a century
ago" or, "from before most editors were born"
. They kept the description from
1863 to 1876 and deleted everyting from 1876 to 2008 (132 years of research) here
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=266787024&oldid=266755214#History
Most of the significant scientific
discoveries of the causes for the four main symptoms were made
in the twentieth century.
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HERE
IS A TYPICAL PARAGRAPH OF DERISIVE CRITICISM
WhatamIdoing
wrote this on 6-10-08
"The
style is horrible. Medicine-related
articles
do not obsessively name the year,
publisher, and authors when discussing research work. That's
what your citation is for. He
doesn't even have complete names
for some of these
people. We don't
blather on about "In 1987 prominent Harvard researcher Oglesby
Paul presented a ten page history of Da Costa's syndrome in the
British Heart Journal..." This is an effort to tell the reader "You
have to believe everything I say
that this guy said.
He's important. You should know his name. He published in a decent
journal." Paul's paper was a routine review paper. Proper style skips this sort of
stuff and gets to the actual point
(which PW's summary seriously
downplays because he's having trouble remembering that anxiety disorder
is a functional disease of the nervous system, not a character
flaw). PW isn't interested in fixing things like this, because they promote his POV. We
can't even get him to quit bolding the years (to conform with
WP:MOSBOLD) despite repeated efforts on that single, small point." . . . that criticism is here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:WhatamIdoing/Archive_2#Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment.2FPosturewriter
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This is a quote from Wikipedia's policy
page on Layout . . . "Headings and sections . . .
Sections and subsections are introduced by headers. Very short
or very long sections and subsections in an article look cluttered
and inhibits the flow of the prose. These headings clarify articles
by breaking up text, organizing content, and populating the table
of contents that users can choose to view (the default) or not
to view (by changing their Preferences)" here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Layout&diff=297686880&oldid=297638774#Headings_and_sections.
Here is WhatamIdoing's advice
on the layout talk page on 21-6-09 . . . "Change suggested section order to recommend a "logical"
order,
and name alphabetical, chronological, and
geographical as
examples of potentially logical orders"
. . . [[User:WhatamIdoing]] 00:03, 21 June 2009 here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Layout&diff=297634748&oldid=297625565
Note that on 6-1-08
WhatamIdoing was saying that it was not appropriate to list the
history of research information in chronological order, and eight
months later suggests that such a style is logical, and an improvement
that should be added to existing style guidelines for future
articles.
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AN
EXAMPLE OF WHATAMIDOING'S ATTEMPTS TO MISLEAD OTHER EDITORS ABOUT
THE HISTORY
A clear example of WhatamIdoing's attempts
to mislead other editors can be described when I reviewed some
articles about Sir James MacKenzie and found that he was a major
researcher into the topic of Da Costa's syndrome in 1916. He
was Knighted for his contributions to medicine, and "was
asked to take charge
of the inquiry into the disorders
of the heart for the Medical History of the War", and opened
a meeting on this subject, and gave the main speech, which was
followed by talks by Dr. R.M.Wilson, Dr. Alexander Morrison,
Dr. O.Leyton, and Dr. Florence A.Stoney. The title of the conference
was "Discussion of the Soldier's Heart", and 'Soldier's
Heart was one of the earlier alternative labels for Da Costa's
syndrome, and Wilson said "a careful study of
upwards of 200 cases of the condition has brought me to the same conclusion" (as
MacKenzie) . . . he then discussed
the conclusions of three earlier researchers, Earl de Grey, Henry
Harthorne, and Dr.Arthur Myers, and then added . . . "but the best known contribution
to the subject was that of J.M.Da
Costa who made the same observations
from 300 cases" . . . and . . . "Sir James Mackenzie concluded
the meeting with the hope of getting a hospital devoted exclusively
to the study of this subject which attracted medical researchers
who were specially qualified 'to investigate this subject thoroughly'
and that . . .
the lines
of study had been established and would lead to more definite
findings in the future".
Those quotes are from an article that was
published in the Therapeutical and Pharmacological section in
the Proceedings of the Royal Society of Medicine which is now
called the Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine, so I used it as a reference.
However, in the first sentence of my review,
which contained only 19 words, WhatamIdoing made five critical comments which
you can see in red below
"In 1916[Formatting wrong] Sir
James MacKenzie chaired[citation
needed] a major[neutrality disputed] medical conference[citation needed] aimed
at[citation needed]
gaining a better understanding
of the condition" here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:WhatamIdoing/Sandbox&diff=prev&oldid=243268880#1900-1919
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The same sort of comments were made on
the Da Costa's talk page e.g. where WhatamIdoing was trying to mislead another group of editors with the following words . . .
"My primary concern is not the history
section, but since you've asked, the biggest problem with the
history section is a WP:DUE issue: Posturewriter seriously overemphasizes
and even misrepresents much of the history. For example, "In
1916 Sir James MacKenzie chaired a major medical conference aimed
at gaining a better understanding of the condition." Actually,
MacKenzie gave a single, short presentation about this condition,
at a normal medical
conference
that made no claim of being focused on this condition" WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:14, 26 January 2009 here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Da_Costa%27s_syndrome#Da_Costa_Article_page_text_replaced_with_the_text_from_the_Posturewriter.2FDaCostaDraft
WhatamIdoing
made the same criticisms and told the same lies to a third group
of editors on the arbitration
page where I was banned, with these
words . . ."For another example, despite repeated requests,
Posturewriter still seems to think that when he refers to a publication,
the date needs to be bolded in the text, and the author's name
and qualifications need to be peacock'd out of recognition. So
his text is full of statements like "In 1916 Sir
James MacKenzie chaired a major medical conference aimed at gaining
a better understanding of the condition", when in fact it wasn't a "major" medical conference, and
it wasn't
"aimed at" anything in particular: it was just another
normal meeting of the Therapeutics
subsection of the Royal Society of Medicine. MacKenzie read a
paper. (Back in the day, that's how all scientific papers were
published: you joined a society, showed up at a meeting, read
your paper to the assembled members, and answered their questions.
If you did this, your paper was then printed in the society's
Proceedings.) Posturewriter's entire statement could,
and IMO should,
be handled in the footnote. An
enormous amount of cruft
crawls
into his writing this way.WhatamIdoing (talk) 04:42, 28 January 2009 (UTC)"
here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration&diff=prev&oldid=266981397#Statement_by_WhatamIdoing
*******
Note that Sir James
MacKenzie
was a major
contributor to Costa's syndrome research who chaired an important
meeting that made influential decisions about the course of Da Costa's syndrome research
but WhatamIdoing misrepresented him as an ordinary doctor
who simply joined a society and just "showed up at a meeting" that "wasn't aimed at anything in particular"
and "made no claim
of being focused on this condition".
Here is a quote about James MacKenzie
by J.D.Howell (1985) (reference number 12) who wrote an article about
the history of cardiology in the United Kingdom . . . "In 1908, James
MacKenzie, who would eventually play a pivotal role in developing
ideas about soldier's heart, included the disease in the first edition of
his Diseases of the heart in the section on "increased
frequency of the heart's action". The disease was found
not only in soldiers, Mackenzie claimed, but also in "workpeople subject to severe muscular
exertion".
Here is another
quote about the history of DCS from an article by Charles Wooley (1990)
(reference number 9) . . . "one of the giants of the British school of cardiology
of that era
was Sir James
MacKenzie"
One of the references on the Da
Costa's page was to Oglesby Paul's 1987 research paper. It was
placed on the page by another editor (not me), and was still
there after I was banned . . . Here is an extract from it . .
. "The first world war saw an amazing concern for the syndrome
described by Da Costa. Some of the best medical brains in Britain were recruited to
study the problem . . . As
early as 1915, the British Medical Research Committee had arranged
for study of "disorders of the soldier's heart" under
the general direction of Sir James MacKenzie at University College Hospital in London. "
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I spent about 12 months providing
Wikipedia with an account of the history of Da Costa's syndrome
from 1864 through to 2008 here. They
kept the early period from 1864 to 1876, and deleted the information
about the next 132
years, and replaced it with the following
11 words
Since
1876
"a
variety of similar or partly similar conditions have been described."here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=266787024&oldid=266755214#History
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A
comment on history by the editor who banned me
The name of the editor who banned me was Moreshci
as per his words on the Requests for Arbitration page on 28-1-09 here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration&diff=prev&oldid=266981397
. . . and followed up on 29-1-09 here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration&diff=prev&oldid=267259599.
You can also see that Moreschi
has not made any
contributions to Wikipedia
in the ten weeks since 11-2-09
here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Moreschi
His general criticism of
contributors who he describes as "nationalists" is
an example of his
attitude toward
anyone else who
tampers with the
verifiable facts of history,
and can seen on
one of his discussion
pages here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Moreschi/The_Plague&diff=252382144&oldid=237936534
These are his exact words . . .
"As Muhammad once said, I believe, the nationalist is he
who supports his people in an unjust cause". "On Wikipedia, this
translates to rewriting history, and tampering with facts and
verified information"
On that basis he
should have banned
my critics for
"tampering
with . . . verified information" etc
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It
would be easy for the History section to be published on another
page
The main arguments of my
two critics are that the article is too long, or that the information
is out-of-date, or not representative of a neutral point of view
. However those issues could be easily resolved if a separate
page was set up called "The Research History of Da Costa's
Syndrome". All of the history items could be deleted and
transferred there and linked. That would immediately reduce the
size of the page by half, and would immediately make it irrelevant
to refer to the information as out-of-date. My critics could
then discuss the information, and, if they could show that some
of it was wrong, they could delete it, and if they thought it
was not a balanced view, they could add whatever they wished
from sources that they thought were relevant, without having
to delete anything.
However, my two critics
obviously don't want to discuss anything, or make any compromises,
because all they want in Wikipedia is their own point of view.
To consider the potential
of a separate page for the history section see the start here
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Leap Frog History
Leap frog history is a way of writing history which shows
a similarity from one time to another but completely erases massive
gaps of important information that is necessary to get a proper
understanding of the subject. In the case of Da Costa's syndrome
history the leap is more than 100 years of scientific discoveries,
which, in Wikipedia, appears not to have existed.
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Types
of History - and Original Research????
My critics have made the rather ridiculous
accusation that my report on the history of Da Costa's is original
research.
However, original research involves doing
something for the first time, such as looking into a microscope
and finding a new bacteria, and then drawing a conclusion from
one persons point of view
I have reported on the history according
to many researchers such as Sir James MacKenzie, who independently
reviewed and summarised the major research findings for the period
1863 to 1916, and Caughey who reviewed the literature of internal
medicine in 1939 , and Oglesby Paul who covered the research
from 1863 to 1987, and Charles Wooley who reviewed the period
1863 to 2006 etc. I have also considered the information provided
by Paul Dudley White who studied it for 50 years, and I have
looked at the information provided by patients in the 20 year
follow up study of Wheeler etc.
By contrast there are other ways of writing
history
For example you can write it from an exclusively
modern point of view with information coming from dictionaries
which contain only one sentence of information, or from one organisations
or one countries point of view, or from one specialty such as
cardiology, neurology, or psychology,. or you can do it from
the civilian literature, or, the military literature, or from
post war studies which only relate to about 1% of the patients,
or you can write about it from the older, or current official
point of view.
In order to consider the criticism objectively
it needs to be noted that WhatamIdoing was editing the page when
it had only four lines of text, and no references, and I started
adding information from 65 references about every aspect. WhatamIdoing
has gone through that information and taken out anything and
everything to make it suit WhatamIdoings point of view. That
isn't any type of research , and it isn't history - it is WhatamIdoing's
personal POV/Pushing
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An explanation for the deletion of some details
In December 1997
I saw a page about Da Costa's Syndrome in Wikipedia with a general
invitation for members of the public to add information to it.
That page contained only four lines of text with no references
here. I began contributing
and several editors made corrections and layout improvements
which enhanced it considerably, but then I added some information
about my own research findings. Ever since then several editors,
but two in particular, have changed their attitude from being
friendly, co-operative, and useful, to being hostile, insulting,
derogatory, offensive, and disruptive, and within a short time
they had used trumped up policy reasons to delete everything
about my own research, as well as deleting it again after I responded
to their request to abbreviate it, and then they proceeded to
delete everything else I wrote. For example, when I added several
paragraphs describing a Harvard scholars history of at least
a dozen controversial theories on the topic, they deleted them
and replaced them with one sentence favoring their own opinion
here. They also went to several
other topic pages where I had added one or two sentences, and
used trumped up policy reasons for deleting them here etc. They continued
in that manner, and over a period of ten months tried to bamboozle
me with what they thought would be an obstacle course of jargon,
and when I questioned them about some of their mistakes, e.g.
here, and here, and here, they cited multiple
policy reasons for deleting my contributions, and then they went
to many discussion or forum pages to seek the assistance of up
to fifty other editors to block me. In essence they were deleting
all significant scientific evidence of a physical cause, and
replacing it with references to psychosomatic concepts, and then
they added a link to the end of the page which opened a window
where Da Costa's syndrome was highlighted in bold print in the
middle of a list of more that 80 mental illnesses.
My contributions
would amount to perhaps eight to ten A4 pages in Wikipedia (and
many medical pages are that length), but the combined criticism
would probably surpass one hundred A4 pages of text if copied
and printed.
Eventually another
two editors saw the disputes and suggested that I and my critics
set up separate subpages to present our contributions without
interference, which were then to be merged by "neutral point
of view" editors (NPOV's) later, and one of them provided
me with a sub-page. I advised them that I would add the contents
a few weeks later on a Sunday. I also predicted that my critics
would find a way of stopping that from happening because, if
my text was added to Wikipedia their article would not look credible.
Within two weeks another editor closed the Requests for Comments
page with advice that I would be banned from contributing to
the Da Costa's syndrome article page if I added any more information
to it. I had been progressively blocked from adding anything
to the Da Costa page, and then the discussion page, and then
to any pages related to Da Costa, and then to any medical pages.
e.g. with these words on 27-1-09 . . . "I
think that a broad topic ban (including Da Costa's syndrome,
Chronic fatigue syndrome, Varicose veins, and any articles even
slightly related to human posture, fitness, or fatigue) is an
appropriate outcome. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:25, 27 January 2009" here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration&diff=prev&oldid=266981397#Statement_by_WhatamIdoing
I was, of course,
in the process of preparing the article and have since completed
it ready to be used as a replacement for the existing Da Costa's
syndrome page, but rather than argue with editors for another
twelve months I have decided to present the information on my
own website here. My critics had been
arguing that wiki policy on medical articles required that I
should only use references that were consistent with medical
dictionary definitions or medical textbook descriptions that
had been published within the past two years, and that anything
other than that was unreliable, and anything older than that
was obsolete. Their method of using policies and forums to control
the content in Wikipedia would prevent their readers from gaining
a proper understanding of the subject and would be of interest
to "media studies" students, so I will add the full
text of those discussions on another page in due course for those
who wish to consider it.
The Da
Costa's syndrome article that was left in Wikipedia after being
altered by other editors up until 26-9-08 has only been edited
once by someone else since 1-8-09 here
The article
that I initially provided for the subpage was posted in Wikipedia
on 28-9-08 here, and was soon flooded
with a barrage of offensive insults and more than 80 criticisms
here. I subsequently responded
by adding 400 links to 60 top quality references to verify the
accuracy of every statement in the text.
The last
version that I posted in Wikipedia was on 30-11-08 here, and is therefore available
to Wikipedia, or anyone else to use for free.
I have
continued to use the Wikipedia page and referencing templates,
and I have written additional text, with additional references,
and added it on my website for the first time on 30-12-08 here, and any use of that
additional information would be a breech of my copyright, and
the source, which is now this website, should be acknowledged,
with me as the author. M.B.
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In the
process of developing the sub-page one editor, named Avnjay,
provided constructive assistance by rewriting the introduction
and the history from 1864 to 1900, so I eventually added that
version to the Wikipedia topic page three times between 25-1-09
and 27-1-09, but each time it was deleted and then I was banned.
I have therefore added the whole essay to my website, but in
order to claim authorship, I have replaced those two sections
with my original introduction etc. All other information has
been written by myself, with much of it cut and pasted from my
previous contributions to Wikipedia which have been deleted and
only remain in the wiki history of edits. I also provided about
60 of the 70 references, and did my own reviews of the other
10, and some of my text was in response to criticism, and otherwise
wouldn't be necessary, and has reduced the usefulness of the
page, but not irreparably. I may add to, or amend the text later.
I spent
twelve months writing that essay, so if it isn't going to be
used by Wikipedia I will use it myself here. It is more accurate and informative
than the one supplied by my two critics M.B.
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Introduction to
the essays preceding my banning
My two
critics WhatamIdoing and Gordonofcartoon have been working as
a team to block all of my contributions to Wikpedia for twelve
months and have finally succeeded in the plan to get me banned,
but in the process an RFC page was closed in violation of wikipedia RFC closing policy, and an Arbitration
decision was made on a Thursday, when I had advised that I would
prepare a defense on the following Sunday.
THE OBJECTIVE OF
MY TWO CRITICS IS TO REGAIN CONTROL OF CONTENT WHICH, IN THE
CASE OF DA COSTA'S SYNDROME HISTORY MEANS REMOVING ALL "SIGNIFICANT:
AND "CONVINCING" EVIDENCE OF A PHYSICAL CAUSE, AND
ALL REFERENCE TO IT AS A TYPE OF CHRONIC FATIGUE SYNDROME. THEIR
BEST ARGUMENT IS THAT EVIDENCE FROM HISTORY IS "OLD",
"OUT-OF-DATE", OR "OBSOLETE" OR IS "FROM
BEFORE MOST EDITORS WERE BORN", AND THAT ONLY MODERN REFERENCES
(PUBLISHED WITHIN THE PAST TWO YEARS) WILL BE ACCEPTED IN WIKIPEIDIA
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THE LAST FEW COMMENTS
ON MY WIKIPEDIA USER TALK PAGE
A response
to SmokeyJoe's question about COI and my publications etc???
here
SmokeyJoe; Regarding my publications;
I became interested in medical research in 1975 and wrote a series
of about 16 essays for the Australasian Nurses Journal, ending
with a three page theory about posture in 1980. After showing
it to a friend of mine, who was also a friend of the head of
the South Australian Institute For Fitness Research and Training,
I was invited to design and co-ordinate a study of patients who
were having chronic problems with fatigue. I was involved in
the fatigue study for 1 year plus pre and post designing and
summing up time. During that time six people, including a cardiologist,
were on the organising committee, and a newspaper journalist,
who had assisted in recruiting volunteers on several occasions,
attended one of the meetings. The other programmes on fitness
and heart disease, asthma and arthritis etc. were designed by
research cardiologists. Twelve years later (1n 1992), I had a
blood test which gave evidence of some abnormalities, and that
was followed by a series of other tests and a CAT scan which
all showed evidence of cancer (Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma). A haematologist
gave me his opinion that I had a three months life expectancy
with no hope of a cure. He then advised me to tidy up my financial
affairs which is a standard medical euphemism for "write
your will" (He was clear and open about the prognosis because
I asked him to be frank with me). I thanked him for his advice.
During the following week I considered that I would not live
long enough to study and devise my own cure for cancer. I also
abandoned all of my other plans and decided to write a book on
posture and health, and keep adding to it until the inevitable.
I sold it by phone calls to librarians. The book increased in
size at the rate of 150 pages a year for 8 years, and I charged
$60 each for the last edition to cover the cost of printing,
binding, and postage. During that time I had two periods of surgery
and chemotherapy, and a stem cell transplant in the year 2000.
The cancer has been in remission ever since. I stopped writing
the posture book and started on "The Health Biographies
of Alexander Leeper, Robert Louis Stevenson, and Fanny Stevenson,
concluding that Louis had chronic tuberculosis attributable to
the Industrial pollution of Nineteenth Century Edinburgh which
polluted his lungs and made them vulnerable to infection, and
that the contagious ailments of his family were due to the plagues
of Malaria and Typhoid in the pre-antibiotic era, and that he
died of a stroke in his early forty's because he was a chain
smoker and a binge drinker. The other biography was about Alexander
Leeper. His education included studies at Oxford University and
he was regarded as one of Victoria's great men. He was also a
prominent educator who promoted the ideas of Frederick Matthias
Alexander which he recommended for use in the development of
good posture in all school children as a means of preventing
disease in adulthood. The book of three biographies included
about 200 pages, and the cover photo of the Stevensons' home
was provided by the curator of the Robert Louis Stevenson museum
in Samoa, where Louis spent his last few years of life.
The side effects of my own cancer
treatment gradually subsided between 2000 and 2004, during which
time I became involved in other activities that were not related
to medicinePosturewriter (talk) 07:56, 8 February 2009 (UTC)posturewriter
SmokeyJoe; Can you please leave
a message on Wizardman's talk page notifying him of my question
about why the RFC page was closed while still active, and could
you ask Moreschi to explain why the arbitration was decided without
me having the opportunity to present my side of the diffs. ThankyouPosturewriter
(talk) 07:56, 8 February 2009 (UTC)posturewriter
Response to Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard
and Kaplan's webpage
Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard
- Sourcing editors from here[133]; Did you notice that I removed
the text related to Kaplan's 80 synonyms in the first sentence
here[134], to show good faith in you, while you considered the
matter further. Also, please note that I could happily remove
the other three links to Kaplan because there are another dozen
WP:MEDRS refs earlier in the sentence which each have five synonyms
in their introduction, and one of them has 10 on it's own, and
the combined total probably amounts to more than 20. Could you
please also take into account that I was giving support to a
medical consumer who made a genuine contribution, but that the
article didn't really need it. The 12 references that I use to
support one statement in one sentence, exceed the total number
that WhatamIdoing has added to the existing page in 12 months.
Also, notice that WhatamIdoing is criticising me without reading
the diff or noticing that I deleted the main problem text before
replacing it to the article page at 18:26 on 27-1-09 here[135]
WhatamIdoing was edting the Da
Costa's syndrome page a year ago when it had only four lines
of text and no references here[136], and is currently editing
this one about Postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome [137],
and here is the Da Costa page of 27-1-09 [138], and here is my
subpage text which I used to replace the article page on 27-1-09[139]
for you to make sourcing quality comparisons. Now that I have
explained the matter, would you still like me to remove the other
three links to Kaplans page? Posturewriter (talk) 08:24, 2 February
2009 (UTC)posturewriter
Your talk
page
You have been indefinitely blocked.
Continuing to use your talk page as a forum whilst blocked is
inappropriate - either request an unblock using the {{unblock}}
template, or stop editing. If you continue to soapbox on this
page your ability to edit it will be removed. GbT/c 10:21, 2
February 2009 (UTC)
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Posturewriter"
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6.
AGF policy and Edit War Jargon
While I was responding to requests for
verification and references etc, my two critics were secretly
engaging in an edit war against me and accusing me of violating
the policy that requires me to assume good faith in them e.g.
with these words
"For six months, he has openly flouted
WP:AGF". . . which can be seen with Gordonofcartoons comments
here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Civil_POV_pushing#Da_Costa.27s_syndrome
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These words
come from the Wikipedia; Assume Good Faith policy WP:AGF here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith
"Assuming good faith is a fundamental principle on Wikipedia. Most
people try to help the project, not hurt it. If this were false,
a project like Wikipedia would be doomed from the beginning .
. . This guideline does not require that editors continue to
assume good faith in the presence of contrary evidence. Assuming
good faith does not prohibit discussion and criticism, but instead
editors should not attribute the actions being criticised to
malice unless there is specific evidence of malice."
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The evidence against my critics acting
in good faith can be seen on the Wikipedia talk:Civil POV pushing
page with these words clearly describing WhatamIdoing's intentions
and methods . . .
"my existing attitude readjustment tools apparently don't reach as far as Australia,
and the editor remains unscathed". WhatamIdoing
(talk) 02:25, 18
May 2008. here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Civil_POV_pushing#Da_Costa.27s_syndrome
Here is some relevent text from Wikipedia
. . . "Harassment is defined as a pattern of offensive
behavior that appears to a reasonable observer to have the purpose
of adversely affecting a targeted person or persons, usually
(but not always) for the purpose of threatening or intimidating
the primary target. The intended outcome may be to make editing
Wikipedia unpleasant for the target, to undermine them, to frighten
them, or to discourage them from editing entirely." here
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Harassment&diff=286286607&oldid=286035108
I have compiled a brief list of the edit
war jargon below
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Wikipedia Jargon
(The content control
methods that are used in flame wars, that new contributors and
readers are not fore-warned about)
Note: Wikipedia editors
who consider themselves to be 'edit warriors' are being childish,
but they actually seem proud of themselves when they go outside
(or above?) standard policy, and act like "the wicked witch
of the west", or use pretentious jargon by referring to
their methods as "Attitude
Readjustment Tools".
They write with aggression in the heat of argument for the purpose
of intimidating or scaring "newbies" so that they leave
Wikipedia voluntarily. When their War Lording, flame throwing,
and trolling fail they resort to more fairy land tactics and
ban them anyway. Some time later, after all the dust settles
they try to disguise their threatening methods of intrigue by
referring to them as mererly "metaphorical".
| Cattle |
Wikipedia
readers; the general public PC CTL is an acronym for personal
computer cattle. (See the photo on top
here PC
CTL) |
| Newbies |
New contributors |
| Attitude
Readjustment Tools |
The methods and jargon
that some Wikipedia editors use that are designed to win decision
making proceses by using methods which are outside of the standard,
fair, and open proceses of debate, and are unknown to newbies
and inexperienced editors. see Lart |
| Flame
War |
An edit war started
by an editor to get a newbie or the informaion provided removed
from Wikipedia after all proper, fair, and open standard methods
of arbitraion have failed. |
| Flame-bait |
A newbie whose name
has been provided by the editor who starts the flame war by hint
or email. The flame-bait is the newbie that the editor wants
to get banned. It perhaps also infers that the newbie is to be
baited, or systematically goaded by personal attacks or unjustified,
trivial or nitpicking criticims from multiple editors until he
becomes uncivil and can be banned for violating WP:CIVIL
policy here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Civility&diff=279120817&oldid=279120346#Engaging_in_incivility. |
| Clue
by four |
A clue stick - a metaphorical 2 by 4 piece
of wood to hit the newbie with to make him obey the "clue"
that he is not wanted in Wikipedia and must leave.
"The clue-by-four is a close relative
of the LART.
Syn. clue stick. This metaphor is commonly elaborated; your editor
once heard a hacker say "I smite you with the great sword
Cluebringer!"
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| Flamer |
An editor or group
of editors who sees the notice of that the flame war has started
and who goes to the arbitration page of the newbie and bans him
before the arbtration process is over, and before the newbie
has had time to present a defence against the accusations |
| Wicked
Witch of Wikipedia (in the seventh paragraph here) |
An editor who has failed to win evidence based
arguments and failed to have the newbie removed from Wikipedia
for genuine and fair reasons, and who resorts to a variety of
childish ways of scaring the newbie out. or of frustrating them
with insults, sarcasm, and spin, and by using policy to nitpick
and provoke the newbie until he leaves voluntarily, or reacts
in an uncivil manner and can be banned for violating WP:CIVIL.
The Wicked Witch is usually an experienced
policy expert and acts as a policy troll, and often as a forum
shopping troll by going from one discussion page to another to
get help from other editors, and subverts the proper decision
making processes by starting non-conventional flame wars to deal
with opponents. WP:CIVIL
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| The Cavalry arrived (in the ninth paragraph
here) |
The cavalry is an administrator, or administrators,
who had been sent a notice of a flame war by hint or email, and
who went to an arbitrtion page and placed a ban on the newbie
before he had the time to present a defence, and before the other
honest and genuine arbitrators had the time to decide the case
on the basis of the weight of evidence from both sides. |
| YHBT |
The acronym used
to describe the newbie after he has been defeated by the flame
war lords and been banned from Wikipedia. YHBT is an acronym
for You
Have
Been
Trolled. |
| Troll |
An annoying pest
that makes constant insults and derogatory remards, and nitpicks
with minor matters of policy to provoke the contributor into
retaliating with an uncivil response so that he can be banned
for violating WP;CIVIL
policy. |
| Luser |
The name given by
the edit war lord to the newbie that they started the war against. |
| Loser |
The name given by
a newbie to describe the childish edit war lords who are stupid
enough to think that they can win all evidence based discussions
by ganging up on their opponent and transmogrifying the intellectual
process into an edit war, and using stealth, ambush, spin, trickery,
scare tactics, and cheating. The gang of losers is called losers
because that is what you call more than one loser. |
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Note that
the editors of Wikipedia modify word meaning and uses for their
own purposes, and have specific discussion and policy pages which
they use to discuss methods of controlling "newbies"
etc which has been developing since it started. However, when
I added a section of similar nature at the top of my User Talk
page to define words that describe the editors tactics they made
strenuous efforts to delete it and eventually did - after I was
banned. i.e. they have a language to control newbies but they
don't want newbies to develop a language to control the editors.
That imbalance undermines NPOV policy (neutral point of view).
That also presents double standards - re; what they can do, the
new contributors can't. Such policies (rules) are therefore rigged
to predetermine the outcome in favor of whatever decisions the
editors want, regardless of the merits of their arguments.
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For another
assessment of the tactics used by experienced editors in Wikipedia
see here . . . http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_an_MMORPG&diff=304969118&oldid=304969046 |
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A CASE OF THE POT
CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK
Here is what an
editor named Guido den Broeder wrote about my two critics on
21-5-08. .
"I am now
quickly getting the idea that this COI complaint against Posturewriter
has one reason only: to get the opposition against your own pov
out of the way. Guido den Broeder (talk) 07:23, 21 May 2008 (UTC)" here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard/Archive_24#Da_Costa.27s_syndrome_take_.232
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The following statement
was made about me by WhatamIdoing seven months later on 28-1-09
on the arbitration page that was set up by Gordonofcartoon to
get me banned . . .
"I'm tired
of the POV-pushing and the edit wars (which he's currently blocked
for)". . . here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration&diff=prev&oldid=266981397#Statement_by_WhatamIdoing
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THE
world wide DOMINATION AND CONTROL OF KNOWLEDGE
Here is another
contributors comment on Content Control addressed to WhatamIdoing on 10-6-09 . . . "I see from other comments on your
talk page that you are also labelling anatomy articles as 'medical',
even though this is arguably an area of expertise/interest for
several other disciplines as well as doctors. It sounds like
the doctors are tying to take over chunks of wikipedia and impose
their views on it. Doctors have their own journals/conferences etc
which they can dominate and control to exclusion of everyone
else, that phenomenon shouldn't be expanded to wikipedia". -Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.153.121.22
(talk) 08:54, 10 June 2009 here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:81.155.80.244#Response
Unfortunately most members of the
public believe what they read without going to the source of
the information to assess it for themselves, and they don't appreciate
how easily knowledge can be manipulated to mislead them.
As a light example, supposing someone
told you that it was going to rain tomorrow so you cancelled
an outdoor event. The following day when the sun was shining
the person tells you the detail that was omitted . . . It was
going to rain in
China. M.B.
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WIKIPEDIA AND THE
CONTENT CONTROLLING EDIT WAR LORDS????
INTRODUCTION TO
THE POV ACCUSATION
NOTE; THE PHOTO OF THE CATTLE
AT THE TOP OF THE POV PAGE here, REFERS TO WIKIPEDIA READERS AND NEW CONTRIBUTORS
being like cattle (easily led) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Civil_POV_pushing&diff=prev&oldid=268277856
For 12 months my two critics in Wikipedia
deleted all clear scientific evidence of the physical causes
of the four main symptoms of Da Costa's syndrome, and used policy
reasons as their excuse, and each time I added more, they replaced
it with obscure jargon and imprecise psychosomatic interpretations.
However, with regard to policy, they argued, in particular, that
I was violating Neutral Point of View guidelines (NPOV) by adding
information that I regarded as vital to understanding the topic,
but they were then violating the same policy by replacing it
with information that favored and emphasised their own opinion.
When you read their words
below, which I have cut and pasted from the Wikipedia POV discussion
page, please note that I have repeatedly criticised them for
their double standards in the past, insofar as they expect other
people to comply with Wikipedia policies, but they don't comply
themselves e.g. here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment/Posturewriter#My_Solution_to_the_Double_Standard_Editing_.28DSE.29__on_Sources
and here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment/Posturewriter#More_evidence_of_double_standard_editing
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THE POV ACCUSATION; As you will soon see, the double
standards blatantly apply to the NPOV policy. However, please
first consider the discussion starting on the 15-5-08 here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Da_Costa%27s_syndrome/Archive_1#Physical_v_psychosomatic
. . .
Note that WhatamIdoing, the
self-described "instant expert" with the self-professed
"annoyingly high IQ", has agreed with me that the symptoms
are due to a "physical" problem, but then demonstrates
a personal POV by cherrypicking one of Jenny King's research
papers and agreeing with, and therefore favoring it over all
others. WhatamIdoing adds that "HVS explains all of the
symptoms" . . . but does not mention that many other theories
"explain all of the symptoms", and that not everyone
agrees with WhatamIdoing and Jenny Kings POV.
WhatamIdoing then goes on
to to express the opinion that DCS is a "sloppy diagnosis",
but that is very offensive way of describing the first detailed
description of the condition which distinguished the symptoms
from heart disease. WhatamIdoing then adds that the label has
gone out of fashion because there is now a better understanding
of the disorder with more precise diagnoses, but does not say
what the "precise" diagnoses were. However, there is
just as much confusion about the cause of the DCS symptoms nowadays
as there has ever been. Furthermore, according to WhatamIdoing
here and elsewhere, the modern diagnoses are mixed in with "imprecise"
and "poorly characterised" post-war and post-traumatic
stress disorders, and several unspecified anxiety disorders???
and is "generally considered" to be psychosomatic -
and the words "generally considered to be" mean - not
everyone is convinced of it.
WhatamIdoing also repeatedly
makes contradictory comments about what Da Costa's syndrome is
called nowadays, such as it is just "garden
variety orthostatic intolerance and hyperventilation syndrome"
here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Da_Costa%27s_syndrome/Archive_1#Banfield
. . . and it is described as the same as several other conditions
elsewhere.
WhatamIdoing then pushes the
POV that the symptoms are due to "anxiety-related hyperventilation"
without mentioning that there are other theories about the cause
of HVS, or that there have been doubts about whether the physical
aspect is cause or effect. Therefore WhatamIdoing has been giving
undue weight to the anxiety cause, by excluding others, which
is a violation of "WP:undue
weight" guidelines
here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Undue_weight#Undue_weight.
WhatamIdoing "the instant
expert" then expresses another POV that "the cardiac
symptoms look strikingly like Postural
Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome". Note that they would look "strikingly"
similar to an "instant expert" who had just started
to study the subject and "suddenly" noticed the similarity.
It would also be classified as WhatamIdoing's personal 'opinion'
which is also 'Original Research' which is a violation of OR
policy. In other words it is an example of WhatamIdoing violating
NOR (No Original Research) and NPOV.
WhatamIdoing's choice of sources
and content are the "only" ones that get to stay in
Wikipedia. However, I have been summarising "all" research,
all labels, all theories, and all opinions to provide APOV -
All Points Of View, and therefore a neutral point of view - NPOV,
yet WhatamIdoing has accused me of pushing my own POV???? and
violating NPOV????
My theory and research were
deleted 12 months ago and I have since been writing the research
history of Da Costa's syndrome, not just the nineteenth century
history, not just the recent history, not just the psychiatric
history, not just cardiology history, not just the HVS history,
not just the military history, not just the civilian history,
not just Paul Dudley White's history, and not just Oglesby Paul's
history etc. but was providing a balanced summary of all of it.
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BEFORE READING
ANY FURTHER I DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO AN ASPECT OF THE COMMENTS
MADE BY MY TWO CRITICS WHICH PRESENT A TYPICAL EXAMPLE OF THE MUDSLINGING
AND SPIN WHERE THEY CAREFULLY CHOSE ALMOST EVERY WORD IN EVERY
SENTENCE TO PUT A NEGATIVE, DEROGATORY, OR BELITTLING, AND TRIVIALISING
SPIN ON ME AND THE TOPIC, AND EVERYTHING AND EVERY WORD IN THE
PREVIOUS TWELVE MONTHS OF ARGUMENTS THAT I ACTUALLY WON. Their
comments are therefore violations of WP:CIVIL (discussion must stick
to the facts and be objective and courteous), and WP:NPA (no Personal Attacks
- no derogatory remarks or insults) etc.
Notice
also their arrogant and ill mannered air of superiority and tone
of condescension.
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My first critics
remarks; Their ID code is WhatamIdoing:
I have highlighted
their choice of deliberately offensive and derogatory words in
red print . . .
This is, in the grand scheme
of things, a
minor case, but it may
illustrate some
of the damage:
We have identified a single-purpose
account, run by an identifiable individual who "just happens" to have a non-mainstream take on a particular set of symptoms. His real
article, called The posture theory, was deleted as non-notable
through AfD. A few days later, he decided to hang his idea on the peg of "Da Costa's syndrome" (a vague 19th century
syndrome, generally considered
a psychosomatic anxiety disorder). It's overall an unimportant article for Wikipedia, so we can't justify investing
several editors' time
and energy into turning it into a little gem of an article and discrediting his personal views. Considering the basic priorities, the
goal for this article is to have it not actually be actively wrong while we deal with more important articles, like Meningitis or Mental health.
The SPA editor is no
more frustrated with the NPOV-oriented editors than we are with him. He's (finally) mostly
given up on getting his
name and his website (with his expensive self-published book
for sale) in the article. He comes by every week or two and adds
bona fide medical publications on the subject -- but always
and only those articles which
support his particular views.
Of course, the condition is entirely superseded,
so most of the
refs are from before most editors were born.
No editor
has ever supported his view.
Five editors have directly told him that using Wikipedia to promote
his personal ideas is not accepted. We've been at this for more
than six months, and he's undeterred in his overall goal.
But what sort of support do we
get from the broader community? We get responses that add up
to "Y'all
play nice, now."
"It's a content dispute: you should 'work for a consensus'."
"You could just keep removing the stuff he adds; it's not like your time
and energy is worth anything."
"Surely
nobody would deliberately add original research, because adding original research (*gasp*) violates
Wikipedia's policy."
Yes, of course all of this violates
a variety of policies, guidelines, and cultural conventions --
notably WP:CONSENSUS, WP:NOR, WP:NPOV, WP:COI, WP:RS, WP:TRUTH
and WP:COPYVIO, in this case. But my existing attitude readjustment tools apparently don't reach
as far as Australia, and the editor remains unscathed.
It's back
at WP:COI/N for a second go-round.
I expect no practical improvement: he's not particularly rude, so why bother blocking him? Unless I'm willing to undertake a concerted
campaign to drive away the editor by convincing him that Wikipedia
is controlled by a particularly rude version of the Wicked Witch
of the West, then I'll probably still be removing the same cruft and leaving the same explanations and warnings on talk pages at the end of the year.
And that, BTW, is the only effective
solution currently in place: When I am no longer willing to put up with this self-promoting nonsense, I can team up with other disgusted editors to be so mean and rude to the SPA that
he leaves in disgust. It's not just the good editors who can
be driven away by bad
behavior. Unfortunately, every time someone resorts to that approach, Wikipedia's reputation is damaged.
We need another solution. WhatamIdoing
(talk) 02:25, 18
May 2008 (UTC)
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MY
CRITICS QUALIFICATIONS
My critic admits to not
knowing much about Da Costa's Syndrome until I started contributing
to Wikipedia. see here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration&diff=prev&oldid=266981397#Statement_by_WhatamIdoing
and claims to be an "instant
expert " in discussion number 16 here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:WhatamIdoing/Archive_2#Categorisation_of_dermatology_articles_on_Wikipedia.2C_input_wanted
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Here are some of the policy
guidelines that WhatamIdoing had been violating before and during
the POV/Pushing page . . . "Characteristics
of problem editors . . . You warn others not to edit war even
while edit-warring against them . . . You often talk about
single purpose accounts in article discussion. Remember
to comment on content, not on the contributor. And especially,
don't bite newcomers . . . You constantly warn editors for
"harassment" or "incivility" which occurs
within mostly constructive comments." here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Tendentious_editing&diff=next&oldid=300167893#Characteristics_of_problem_editors
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The Relevance of my Qualifications
Note that all members
of the public are invited to contribute to Wikipedia and ALL
editors are required to discuss CONTENT and not personal details.
After reviewing THE QUALITY OF
MY REFERENCES an editor named SmokeyJoe wrote these words at
11:14 on 15-8-08. . . " I am assuming that Posturewriter
is a well qualified academic individual" here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment/Posturewriter&diff=229934607&oldid=229813594
WhatamIdoing replied six hours later at 17:28 on 5-8-09, and said that I
was not qualified, and added these comments . . .
"He was a [[sports instructor]] who got interested in exercise
for people with fatigue and worked essentially as a coach or
physical therapy technician on a single exercise-related study"
here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment/Posturewriter&diff=next&oldid=229965523
Here are a
few relevant facts
Thirty years ago I was using
indexing systems at University libraries to find the best and
most recent information from the best researchers and medical
authorities in the world when I found a cardiology book called
"The Heart", 3rd edition, by J.W.Hurst et al. (1974).
It contained a chapter on the cardiovascular symptoms of anxiety
neurosis, or neurocirculatory asthenia, with an introduction
that mentioned Da Costa's syndrome as being one of the most commonly
used alternative labels. On page 1554 it outlined a hypothesis
that the condition involved abnormalities in aerobic metabolism,
and then I saw these words . . . "Attempts by Cohen and his associates
to alter these abnormalities by physical training were unsuccessful
since the
patients could
not or would not
follow the prescribed training programme."
However, I had also developed
some of my own ideas on that subject, and when I discussed them
with a friend of mine he introduced me to the head of the S.A.
Institute for fitness research and training. I told him about
my ideas which included information about the abnormal nature
of the response to physical exertion, and that training people
in a manner that kept them within their limits could prevent
the type of symptoms that would make them stop training. He then
asked me to design a programme that would be followed by patients,
and said that he would discuss it with his research staff. Some
time later he invited me back to his office and explained that
all of his staff were busy on other projects and invited me to
do it. I told him that I didn't have any medical qualifications
and that I would rather not get involved, but he said that it
didn't matter because the staff cardiologists could do all the
medicals, and a committee of doctors could be set up to formalise
and approve the study, and that a training coach could be found.
My role would be to co-ordinate the study and compile and evaluate
the results. Following the success of the first twelve week programme,
two more followed until a total of more than 80 people had been
tested and trained, and nine completed three months, and five
completed six months of training, which proved that some of the patients
"could", and "would" train if the progamme
was designed appropriately.
I then left the study, and the programme continued, but I did
not follow it's progress.
Hence, I was the designer of
a successful research programme in an area where other international
researchers were having problems, and it provided a method for
others to use, and scientific confirmation of the affect of exercise
on aerobic metabolism. However, WhatamIdoing was trying to create
the false impression that I was a sports trainer who had no medical
knowledge, and who was not involved in the research itself. Note
also that I presented some of that information on my website
in response to earlier requests from other editors, and, as is
obvious, WhatamIdoing was aware of it, and read it, and deliberately
misrepresented it. That information is here
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All
references to PACING were deleted from the Da Costa's page and
the Chronic Fatigue Syndrome page
I also saw a comment on the CFS
page which had been provided by someone else, and used it as
a reference in the 2000+ section of the history of Da Costa's
syndrome because it was similar type of exercise programme .
. . These were the words . . . "Nevertheless patients report that exercising at a self-determined mild level within
their own perceived limits, called "pacing" was the most effective method (b)" . . . I added it to the Da Costa's page at 00:08 on 14 January 2008 here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=184151270&oldid=184150833
However, WhatamIdoing deleted it within two
hours at 1:34 on 14-1-08
here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=next&oldid=184167421
I then checked the reference
again and noticed that another editor named JamesStewart7 had
deleted all reference to "Pacing"
from the
CFS page on 5-1-08. (it had been there for several months
without anyone showing any need to delete it until I mentioned
it on my own website in a section called "About the Author",
which had been put there because other editors requested information
about my own research experience). The discussions about those
deletions can be seen here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Chronic_fatigue_syndrome/Archive_5#Wallman_et_al . . . and here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Chronic_fatigue_syndrome/Archive_5#GET_unreferenced_statment_removed
I wrote a
further summary of that sequence of events on my own website
above, after I was banned, and WhatamIdoing would have been watching,
and did, on at least one occasion, make some critical remarks
about what I was doing on my own website, and suggested derisively
that other editors take a look at it. Obviously, some of the editors of Wikipedia could
have seen all of the information, and then I checked the chronic
fatigue syndrome topic page again, eight months after I was banned, and saw that a section on PACING was in the list of contents at the top
of the page, so I had a look at the history of edits to find
out when it was put back, and who put it there. It was put back
by an anonymous editor with the IPP address of 87.112.52.109 at 17:00 on 1-9- 09
with these words . . . "Pacing is not a therapy but a strategy to
manage energy which has been consistently rated as one of the
most helpful treatments available" here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chronic_fatigue_syndrome&diff=next&oldid=311270372
That section was then improved
in the following five hours by a two editors named Ward20 and RobinHood70, and some of the descriptions were very similar
to the exercise regime that I designed and described in my 1982 research paper, and which I placed on
my website. However, they used other sources from 2004 to 2008 as references for the information. See
here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chronic_fatigue_syndrome&diff=311334025&oldid=311305422
Summary: my two critics were WhatamIdoing and Gordonofcartoon and they were deleting the information
about my research and they had me banned on the basis that it
was "ignorant", "non-notable", "self-promoting
nonsense". However, the principles that
I designed for the research programme in 1982 have now been reworded
(paraphrased) and put back into a related topic page by other
editors and attributed to other sources. In other words there
is a consensus from other editors that the principles of the
research programme that I designed were the best according to
independent verifiable sources, and they don't appear to care
who they get the most effective methods from, as long as it wasn't
me.
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The
Information that I provided to Wikipedia that was deleted while
I was involved, and added back from different sources after I
was banned.
A quote from
my original research paper from 1982
This is a quote from the research
program that I designed in 1982 and put onto my webpage after
several Wikipedia editors asked me to provide evidence and details
of my own research.
At that time the condition was
referred to as neurasthenia (chronic fatigue)
"Exercise principles: (a)
no sprinting or accelerating (b) no heavy lifting or strenuous
work (c) gradual improvement (allowing for fluctuations) (d)
work at own level with pulse 120/140 bpm even if this means periodically
reducing performance (e) if overexercise occurs and the person
appears distressed by faintness and dizziness, he should stop
exercise and alternately pace about and rest and take deep breaths
until recovering, but may continue to feel some distress for
awhile." See page 2
here
A quote from
the information that I added to Wikipedia at 5:58 on 18-12-2007
(I mentioned some findings from
another researcher named Volkov in 1980, about the aerobic capacity
of patients with the same ailment, but he didn't provided any
information about the effect of exercise, and other researchers
were finding it difficult to get that information because the
patients would refuse to train, so I added a summary of my own
research with these words) . .
. "From
1982 -1983, researchers
at the South Australian Institute For Fitness Research and Training
examined more than 80 volunteers with persistant fatigue and
found similar results, and a training programme was designed
on the basis that they would participate if they kept within
their own limits and improved at their own rate. Eleven who didn't
train were examined 6 months later with no significant change.
Ten completed three months training of 2 hours per night twice
per week, and six completed six months or more. Three cases improved
but plateaud after three months below 600 kgm/min, and 3 ot those
who were initially recorded as below 400 kgm/min showed significant
improvement. Twelve months after starting the training programme
one of the participants entered a six mile marathon and completed
it. Although the results were not published in medical journals
the general findings were reported in several Australian newspapers."
See here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=next&oldid=177992390
My two critics
then set up a DCS talk page and commented on that information
in their first edits on 21-12-07
"I'd like to remove the last few paragraphs of the "History" section,
beginning
from the words "From 1982-1983..." Does anyone here -- that is, anyone here
except Banfield, who has a clear conflict of interest in judging
the merits and notability of his own work -- object? WhatamIdoing 01:08, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
No objection here. Nothing I can find in
real medical literature
sugests it merits such undue space, and I agree about the COI
of his expounding anything to do with his own theory in this
article. I've posted a note to that effect at User talk:Posturewriter;
if necessary, it can go to WP:COI/N." Gordonofcartoon (talk) 02:16, 21 December 2007
Note that they were later claiming
to be highly experienced and expert medical editors who were
thoroughly conversant with the topic, and that I was ignorant,
but they were acting as if they were not aware of anything in
the medical literature about the benefits of exercise in DCS????
A quote from
the information that I added to Wikipedia and that one of my
two critics deleted on 14-1-08
This was part of the information
about my posture theory and my fatigue research that I put back
onto the Da Costa's syndrome page after modifying and abbreviating
it because it was said to take up undue space, and that WhatamIdoing also deleted at 1:33 on 14-1-09,
so I haven't bothered to put it back since.
"From 1982 -1983 researchers
at the South Australian Institute For Fitness Research and Training
examined more than 80 volunteers with persistent fatigue and
found similar results to Volkov using standard scientifically
reliable ergometric graphs. The objective of the study was to
determine the effects of regular exercise on the fatigue, but
previous programmes had found that patients refused to train
or dropped out of the courses too soon for meaningful results
to be obtained. In order to overcome that problem Max Banfield,
who was appointed research co-ordinator of the project, designed
a training programme on the basis that the participants would
continue if they kept within their own exertional limits and
improved at their own rate . . . Ten completed three months training
of 2 hours per night twice per week, and six completed six months
or more . . . Although the
results were not published in medical journals the general findings
were reported in several Australian newspapers etc" See
here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=184167421&oldid=184151270
Although I haven't put that information
back since, my two critics repeatedly tried to give the arbitrators
the false impression that I was constantly putting it back almost
every week for a year, and needed to be banned for disruptive
editing???? e.g. here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration&diff=prev&oldid=266981397#Statement_by_WhatamIdoing
A quote provided
by another editor from other sources seven months after I was banned.
This was the explanation for
a contribution by an editor named Ward20
at 19:51 on 1-9-09 . . . "Pacing: combine text
with previous text treatment page. Need high quality sources.
this version has a review referencing material).
The wording on the CFS topic
page was then amended as follows . . .
"Pacing is a strategy to
encourage behavioral change while acknowledging patient fluctuations
in symptom severity and delayed exercise recovery. Patients are
advised to set manageable daily activity/exercise goals and balance
their activity and rest to avoid possible over-doing which may
worsen their symptoms. Those that are able to function within
their individual limits may then start to gradually increase
activity and exercise levels (GET) while maintaining pacing methods.
The goal is to increase over time the level of routine functioning
of the individual.[52] A small randomised controlled trial concluded
pacing with GET had statistically better results than relaxation/flexibility
therapy.[53][54]". See here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chronic_fatigue_syndrome&diff=311334025&oldid=311305422
(Note that G.E.T. refers to Graded
Exercise Therapy)
Summary;
The information about my research
from 1982 that I provided about exercise on the
Da Costa's page has been deleted as "nonsense" and
I was subsequently banned. Since then several other editors have
put the same general information back on the CFS page as the
best method available according to other references published
between 2004
and 2008.
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Note that a person who adds information
to Wikipedia is required to provide independent verification
that what they say is true, and that it is preferable to do it
online for the convenience of other editors so that they can
check it easily. They are also required to show that the information
is supported by many different sources so that it can be deemed
reliable, which is why I added information about my own research
to my website (to make the it easy to find), and why I mentioned
other studies with similar findings (to show that it was independently
verifiable), and why I looked for, and added a link to another
page in Wikipedia (to make it easy to verify)). When the information
was deleted I did not put it back unless I could satisfy the
other editors requests to meet particular standards, and then
I stopped mentioning my own research. However, WhatamIdoing always
put a negative spin on everything.
It is probably superfluous to
say that I have no reason to avoid mentioning anything about
myself to unbiased and intelligent people, but it is not sensible
to freely discuss any topics of a controversial nature. My two
critics in Wikipedia give classic examples. For example when
I said that I had written a thousand page book on the subject
they argued that I could not contribute because of "conflict
of interest" policy. When I said that I had access to research
papers from my own filing cabinet (which were by other authors
from research journals), they said that I couldn't use them because
it was a violation of "original research" policy, and
when I discussed research into the symptom of breathlessness
from the 1940's, they argued that I couldn't use it because it
was "synthesis" of my theory. (that symptom affects
more than 90% of patients). When they were repeatedly probing
for more details about me, it was obvious that they were looking
for excuses to ban me.
However, when I mentioned that
WhatamIdoing had previously admitted to not knowing much about
Da Costa's syndrome, and to being useless at cardiology, and
to being an instant expert, and when I stated the obvious fact
that instant experts had shallow knowledge, they responded with
spite and hostility. I mentioned that at 10:08 on 27-1-09, and
at 10:25 (in
less than half an hour)
Gordonofcartoon responded with arrogant indignation, and at 18:27
(eight
hours later) WhatamIdoing
wrote these words "Posturewriter has been blocked for COI
violations and editwarring" here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=266789799&oldid=266722358#Da_Costa_Article_page_text_replaced_with_the_text_from_the_Posturewriter.2FDaCostaDraft.
You can determine for yourself
that one or both of them then started desperately sending
emails to their friends in a great rush to get me banned
the next day (before I had time to give my final defense). The
evidence for that can be seen where an editor named Moreshci
interrupted the regular arbitration process that involved twelve
editors, and banned me on his own on 28-1-09, and a few days later,
on 3-2-09, Gordonofcartoon expressed his great relief with these
words . . . "Finally I raised it at Requests for Arbitration.
They were cautiously moving toward accepting before the cavalry
arrived in the form of admins who were prepared to bring blocks,
ultimately an indefinite one for disruptive conduct" here
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Civil_POV_pushing&diff=302592402&oldid=302555878#Da_Costa.27s_syndrome
Note that Gordonofcartoon was
using the plural word "admins" to create the false impression that
there was a large group of editors banning me, when in fact there
was only one, and his name was Moreshi. and he was referring
to him as the
cavalry in a further
attempt to create the illusion of great numbers. You can also see that the use of the word cavalry
is an indication that his arrival was part of a predetermined
edit war that was being conducted against me, and that WhatamIdoing
said that I had been blocked for edit warring when I didn't know
what an edit war was, and was just defending myself from multiple
personal attacks.
There is more evidence a few months later on 8-5-2009 when Whatamidoing awarded
Moreschi with an OUTLAW HALO award for being the only editor
prepared to break all the rules to get me banned. These were
WhatamIdoing's words to Moreschi . . . "Thanks for being the only
part of the community
that was willing to step up to the plate when I was about to
tear my hair out over [[User:Posturewriter]] . . . in January". [[User:WhatamIdoing]]23:41, 8 May 2009
here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Moreschi&diff=prev&oldid=288770661
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Note that at 8:32 on Tuesday 27-1-09
I advised the other twelve arbitrators that I would be presenting my final defense the following Sunday
with these words . . . "Arbitrators; Please note that you
can see the pattern of WhatamIdoing and Gordonofcartoon changing
the jargon, and changing the policy, and changing the forums
each time I comply, which is a form of disruptive editing called
"moving the goalposts . . . Also
note that this has been going on for 12 months and I prefer to
contribute on Sundays only so if that is a problem please let
me know, but I don't think any thing I say will change the way
they do thingsPosturewriter (talk) 08:32, 27 January 2009 (UTC)posturewriter
here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration&diff=prev&oldid=266981397#Statement_by_posturewriter
Note also that I was aware that my two
critics would see that comment as well, and that they would probably do something to disrupt and
undermine the arbitration process.
I was therefore not in the slightest bit surprised that they
would get one of their friends to come along and ban me before
Sunday 1st February.
Moreschi banned me at 15:36 on Wednesday 28th January here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration&diff=prev&oldid=266981397#Comment_from_Moreschi
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My critics statements from the essay
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The
exact words of other editors - highlighted in red
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"No
editor has ever supported his view" . . . WhatamIdoing 2:25
on 18-5-08 above |
It
would be useful to first read the discussion on the COI number
2 page which started on 13-5-08 and ended on 24-5-08 here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard/Archive_24#Da_Costa.27s_syndrome_take_.232 where WhatamIdoing began
an invective diatribe on 15-5-08, and was fully aware of the
support being given to my contributions by Guido den Broeder.
The false claim that "No editor has ever supported his view"
was made on the POV page three days after Guido den Broeder started
supporting my contributions.
These
are some concluding words of Guido den Broeders comments between
13-5-08 and 20-5-08
"I don't
care what he may have done half a year ago. He does not need
to be stopped, since he is not promoting anything or adding any
original research to the article now". Guido den Broeder
(talk) 17:29, 20 May 2008
Here
are some supporting words by Avnjay before Gordonofcartoon seconded
WhatamIdoings comments.
"Hi
Posturewriter. Firstly: Well done, this appears to be an excellent
article, well sourced, and a lot better than the one that is
already up there in format and detail". AvnjayTalk 19:42,
2-10-08 here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Posturewriter/DaCostaDraft
and
these words
"To
be honest, in my opinion, it's actually a lot better and far
more detailed than the one that is currently up and I can't find
anything which is COI, unsourced (97 different sources quoted!!),
or biased" . . . AvnjayTalk 10:51, 5-10-08 here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:WhatamIdoing/Archive_2#Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment.2FPosturewriter
Note
that there were actually 97 "links" to 24 "references"
at that stage, and I have since increased that by providing 400
lnks to 60 references here.
and
note these words
"This
article may well come under more scrutiny than many other articles
written on Wikipedia so do be prepared for lots of suggestions.
However, at the end of it all I really believe we can produce
a brilliant article. Keep up the good work! " Avnjay 15:34,
6-10-08 here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Posturewriter/DaCostaDraft&diff=prev&oldid=243449158
(Note that both the draft page
and it's associated talk page have been removed by the editors
and cannot be checked by independent readers now.)
Avnjay
also said this in the same discussion
"I
asked WhatamIdoing to have a glance over the article and two
things she picked up on were: not enough up-to-date sources ([[WP:MEDRS#Use_up-to-date_evidence]])
and that some of the quotes were very short and so can have their
context questioned. I would definitely recommend finding some
more sources from the last few years - have a look at the current
article as I think there are some there".
I then
spent a few weeks looking for more good quality modern medical
articles, and now there are ten references, from 2000 to 2008,
as you can see in the list here
. . .
However, WhatamIdoing just continued the relentless barrage of
criticism here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:WhatamIdoing/Archive_2#Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment.2FPosturewriter
. . . and up until 27-1-09 here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration&diff=prev&oldid=266981397#Statement_by_WhatamIdoing
. . .
until
I was banned on 28-1-09.
***
WhatamIdoing
has also acknowledged the other editors consensus of opinion
for the past 12 months with these words
"He's
not particularly rude so why bother blocking him" here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Civil_POV_pushing#Da_Costa.27s_syndrome
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MY
RESPONSE TO MY FIRST CRITICS ESSAY
1. When my critic refers to this
as a "minor case" in the "grand scheme of things",
they are trying to understate their major attempt to discredit
me for the past 12 months, and it took that long because they
kept on losing most of the arguments.
2. When they refer to me as a
"single-purpose
account" they are
trying to create the false impression that I only have only one
topic of interest. However I have many interests and my 1000
page book refers to dozens of ailments. They don't just want
to stop me from contributing to the Da Costa's topic page, but
to all medical pages, and they have just banned me permanently.
They are also saying that people,
such as myself, who have had a lot of knowledge and experience
with a subject, are not good sources of information for Wikipedia,
while my critics should be able to dictate what information gets
into Wikipedia on the basis of their newly acquired "instant
expertise"??? as mentioned here
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:WhatamIdoing&diff=247115577&oldid=247067496
They also expect new contributors,
such as myself, to write about subjects that they have no knowledge
of, and are not interested in, presumably because that it the
only way that my critics - the "instant experts" or "Jacks of all trades" are ever
going to win content arguments.
When they say that I added a couple of references
to the Wikipedia page each week
they are not telling you that it is the way I do most essays,
and that it also provided my two critics with the opportunity
to add information which they thought was relevant during the
week, but 95% of the time they chose to do nothing except criticise
me. (The reason that they didn't want to mix their information
with my "scientific references", was because the evidence
sheds doubt on their account of the condition).
When they say that my book was expensive they are not telling you that the sales
price was established to pay for the cost of printing, binding,
and postage, with no profit being made.
When they say that The Posture
Theory was deleted as being non-notable on AFD
they are not giving a link to the discussion. Here
it is http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/The_posture_theory&diff=prev&oldid=174977810
Note that I answered all of the
editors questions fully and courteously, and then they said "We just need dates,
titles (and most preferably links to online versions of all of
this) so it can actually be verified that everything you said
is true". Note that
they wanted proof online but such information was not available
for articles written in newspapers 30 years ago, so I provided them with
the name
of a journalist and the phone number of the newspaper and they deleted
the article anyway. They
did not say that the decision was that the article was not notable
because, after me providing that information they would have
looked ridiculous. They finished the discussion with the words
"Close discussion:Delete" and did not specify a reason. Also when I later provided online proof by putting a scanned copy of one of the
newspaper articles on my website they should have said "ONLINE
PROOF PROVIDED AS REQUESTED - THANKYOU - ARTICLE ACCEPTED",
however they changed their attitude and have since repeatedly
argued that it was proof of conflict of interest, and self-identification, and self-promotion etc. - their hippocracy is blatant, offensive,
and ridiculous e.g. here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard/Archive_23.
3. When they say that no editor has ever supported
my views they are not
telling you that before my name was mentioned on the Da Costa's
page, many editors were enthusiastically co-operating with me,
and since then an editor named SmokeyJoe
has said that my references are not insignificant here
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User_talk:Posturewriter
. . .
In addition to those comments
another editor named Guide Den Broeder
read my contributions and described me as an expert, AND WhatamIdoing has referred to me as
an expert in some arguments
against me e.g. here
- http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Posturewriter&diff=prev&oldid=225855935
. . .
However, when SmokeyJoe assessed my contributions as those of
a "well qualified academic" WhatamIdoing rushed in to say that I was just a field sports coach in the research project here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment/Posturewriter#RE:_Responses_to_comments_to_User:SmokeyJoe.E2.80.99s_suggested_outcome
(I was actually the designer
and co-ordinator of a medical research programme, and another
person was delegated the role of field instructor)
They are also not telling you
that I often found NPOV editors
who agreed that my contributions were complying with all policy
e.g. in the third paragraph here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:WhatamIdoing/Archive_2#Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment.2FPosturewriter
. . . with the words "To be honest,
in my opinion, it's actually a lot better and far more detailed
than the one that is currently up and I can't find anything which
is COI, unsourced (97 different sources quoted!!), or biased" , and here
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Posturewriter/DaCostaDraft&diff=prev&oldid=243449158
, with the words "This article may
well come under more scrutiny than many other articles written
on Wikipedia so do be prepared for lots of suggestions. However,
at the end of it all I really believe we can produce a brilliant
article. Keep up the good work! " , . . Such favorable words
were undermined by my critics
who spent
a lot of time criticisng the NPOV editors, and referring to them as being medically ignorant
and not expert enough in the topic area to be able to judge the
merits of the evidence e.g. in the fourth paragraph here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:WhatamIdoing/Archive_2#Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment.2FPosturewriter
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:WhatamIdoing/Archive_2#Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment.2FPosturewriter.
However it was not their role
to assess just content, but to also assess layout, presentation,
referencing , verifiablity, neutrality, and the appropriateness
in relation to the relevant policies.
They are also not telling you
that the fundamental principles of Wikipedia are superior to
the policies, and that the information is supposed to become
superior to printed encyclopedias by getting it from "all" sources, not just "medical sources",
and that the only way of complying with neutral point of view
policy (NPOV) is to include "all" information, not
just one side of any ten sided story. They are also not telling
you that Wikipedia invites "all" members of the public
to contribute, not just cherry-picked individuals with particular
backgrounds and associated bias.
When they refer to my "non-mainstream"
ideas they are referring to my suggestion from "the Posture
Theory" that poor posture compresses the ribs and makes
the muscles between them tender and prone to occasional sharp
chest pains etc and that poor posture also compresses the lungs
and strains the breathing muscles to produce a tendency to sighing
respiration etc. By contrast one of their favorite mainstream
ideas is a highly complicated mix of obscure contradictory arguments
such as there is no heart disease therefore the pain is imaginary
and must be caused by anxiety, a fear of heart disease, and subconscious
psychological problems that are so mysterious that nobody can
find them. The editors are trying to bury their ideas in jargon such as "somatoform autonomic dysfunction"
etc, that normal readers would have no hope of understanding
or questioning, and would therefore be expected to blindly believe.
4.When they are referring to
Da Costa's syndrome as "a vague 19th century syndrome" they are deliberately misrepresenting
a condition that is so clear and distinct that in 1987, more
than 100 years after it was first identified, Oglesby Paul wrote
"It is important to be able to recognise the condition irrespective
of the label used. The diagnosis is usually not difficult for
an interested reasonably inteligent physician" here
http://heart.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/58/4/306 . . . and
it affects 2-4% of the population and has been subject to major
debates during that time re; is it heart disease or not, is it
mental or physical etc. (note that 2-4% of the population is
200 to 400 million people globally)
They also don't want readers
to know that it is now mixed in with the common labels of chronic fatigue syndrome because they don't want to add to the
existing controveries on that topic, or have those groups of
individuals having a closer look at the evidence from history.
They also don't want you to know about the disputes because Wikipedia
policy places importance on considering "all" points of view, "especially" with "controversial"
topics.
They also don't want you to know
that the
arguments of history were "heated" because they don't want you to realise
that anyone who presents information on the topic
is likely to get hostile
responses from a whole
host of individuals with strong bias or prejudices. re; they don't want you to notice that their hostile response to me is the result of them having a
strong POV
or undisclosed COI. i.e.
they want you to think that their criticism of me is purely objective
so that you will focus on possible faults in me, and that you
don't stop to take a close look at their motives.
An example of desperate measures
at removing the information can also be seen in a series of anonymous vandalistic
deletions which started on 9-5-08
here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=next&oldid=210262939
. . . soon after gordonofcartoon added the cruft, or rubbish
comment on the page. see more details here
They also say that I am promoting my own ideas when in fact they deleted all information about it
twelve months ago and
I haven't put it back.
However someone else established the Da Costa page, and after
I started adding to it someone else gave it a subsection with
the title of "history". When they deleted my research they
said that they
appreciated my other contributions here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Da_Costa%27s_syndrome/Archive_1#I.27m_going_to_go_read_WP:CIVIL_now
. . . so I started adding to the history section by basing my
contributions on the information provided in J.M.DaCosta's original
research paper of 1871. I then proceeded to fill in the gaps
in the history of research by referring to the findings of 60
different medical researchers from all medical specialties, with
the aim of eventually having the most important findings and
ideas arranged in a clear and logical chronological order, and
tracing it through the changes in labelling to 2008. They don't
tell you that they were sysetmatically removing all information
that they didn't want the readers to see and replacing it with
information that supported their POV. They were invited to do
their own account of the article for comparison but they refused
to do that by aguing that they didn't have the time because they
were too busy editing other articles. They also don't tell you
that their idea of history only includes the period from 1863
to 1900 which I wrote and they tried to discredit.
5. When they say it is generally
considered an
anxiety or psychosomatic disorder,
they are not telling readers that there have been more than 100
theories and labels about it for the past 100 years, and vast
amounts of evidence of physical cause have been found e.g. here
http://heart.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/58/4/306. The editors
have been deleting all significant evidence of physical cause
on the basis that the scientific evidence from the past is "old" "out
of date", "obsolete" or "superceded". I have told them many times before
that research
papers from the past are acceptable in history sections for "obvious"
reasons according to Wikipedia Sourcing policy, but they just ignore that and pretend
that they haven'l lost that argument many times in the past 12
months. Other editors have told them the same thing e.g. at the
top of WhatamIdoing's talk page here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:WhatamIdoing/Archive_2#Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment.2FPosturewriter
Note also, in 1947 a researcher
finally found the real physical cause of the breathlessness of DaCosta's syndrome which was abnormal function
of the breathing muscle
here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=prev&oldid=186305009.
Confirmation of that discovery disproved the previous ideas that
it was just
'subjective' or 'imaginary'
and the fact that the breathlessness is physically based will
never change. It had a proven physical cause in 1947, is still the same symptom with the same cause
in 2009, and will still be the same in 2050. WhatamIdoing has
removed that reference, and therefore the evidence of that fact
twice e.g. here
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=190462118&oldid=190379699,
and keeps on inferring that the sighing respiration is due to
anxiety induced hyperventilation. If readers were informed of the breathing
abnormality at least half of them would have enough sense to
question the anxiety theories, but WhatamIdoing obviously wants
Wikipedia readers to blindly believe the anxiety theory without
questioning them, and so deliberately removes the evidence that
sheds doubt on it. It is the equivalent of treating Wikipedia
readers with contempt, as if they are cattle to be herded, or
mushrooms to be farmed, re; kept in the dark
and fed on b.s. Wikpedia readers are not a crop of mushrooms,
and editors such as WhatamIdoing should not be allowed to use
Wikipedia as their own private mushroom farm. (does WhatamIdoing
have a degree in social engineering???, and is someone paying
WhatamIdoing to sit on the computer for up to 16 hours a day
and do up
to 100 edits or more a day????
and 20,000 edits in four years. Are we all supposed to believe
without question that all that activity is voluntary???? or should intelligent people consider
the possibility that they may be establishing a reputation for
service and integrity so that they can control content - if and
when necessary - and when they are criticised by people like
me they come up with the innocent, sanctimonious argument - "Are
you question my integrity?" etc. Anyone who isn't naive
would question the motives of such an editor, and it is not uncivil to ask that question. It is common sense.
Also, even if there is no money
involved, the selective nature of the editing and the hostility
of the response indicate some sort of prejudice or bias that
could be related to their health status, class, educational qualificatons,
and or professional or group affiliations.
Finally, WhatamIdoing has previously received a medical trophy for a Wikipedia article
on fatigue here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:WhatamIdoing/Archive_2#Fatigue,
and would therefore be bringing a personal POV to this subject,
given that DCS involves chronic fatigue.
5B. Note also that WhatamIdoing
has criticised me several times with the derisive arguments that
my references are "old"
in one quote, and "obsolete" in another, and "out-of-date" in another, because they were published
more than ten years ago, and, yet again, as quoted above "Of
course, the condition is entirely superseded,
so most of the refs are from before most editors were born", and again from the arbitration page
where he told the other editors that my contributions were poor
quality because some of my references (about the history of DCS)
were "from
nearly a century ago".
However, if you look at the reference list on the Da Costa's
page of 2-2-09 here
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=268043151&oldid=266976152#References,
which they apparently find acceptable, you can see that nine
of the eighteen references were published between 1871 and 1993,
but because they are being used to suit WhatamIdoing's point
of view they have not been deleted. That is just one of my criticis
many double standards, but they predictably argue that their
use of "old" references is justifiable for "different"
"policy" reasons, and they will try and convince me
and you that I am not intelligent enough to understand the difference.
5C. Note my critics excessive
emphasis on all things psychological on the Da Costa's syndrome
article page, and their preference for the W.H.O. use of "Somatoform Autonomic
Dysfunction" . .
. That is jargon that no-one is supposed to understand,
but the word somatoform essentially means "imaginary"
which contradicts the scientific evidence of physical cause that
WhatamIdoing is selectively deleting. The whole terminology is
also generally regarded as "wastebasket" diagnosis
e.g. in the second last paragraph of this section here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Da_Costa%27s_syndrome/Archive_1#Dorlands_as_a_reliable_source
Note that patients are not rubbish
just because it is deemed "official" . . . "scientific"
. . . "opinion", and it is not appropriate for Wikipedia
to be used as a waste bin for humans. It is also not their place
to exclude
the opinion of medical consumers.
WhatmIdoing has also added victim blaming exercises by referring in an oblique way to "compensation",
and implying that patients are faking the symptoms to get sympathy
or monetary gain, and WhatamIdoing should stop adding victim
blaming double talk to the notes in the references by referring
to DCS patients as cowards who need to be given dignity e.g.
in reference number 4. here
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=next&oldid=214695896#References.
The editors of Wikipedia need to stop acting like intellectual
cowards by excluding the opinion of medical consumers, and start
winning their arguments on the basis of merit, instead of by
stealth and default. You can see the evidence in the history
of edits for the Da Costa's syndrome page between late December
2007 and December 2008.
6. When they say it is "overall
an unimportant article" that they could turn into "a little gem of an article" they are choosing their words
to deviously downplay
a major topic of heated debates and controversy for 100 years, and want other Wikipedia editors and
readers to think that it is trivial so that nobody reads the
evidence. It is the equivalent of them trying to convince you
that the model T-Ford is overall an unimportant motor vehicle
in the history of human transportation, but we could turn it
into a quaint little match box toy to amuse children.
7. When they imply that the information
that I provided for the article page is "actively wrong", and that there are more important
articles such as meningitis or mental health for them to consider,
they are simply trying
to trivialise the topic
that was already in Wikipedia before I started on it, and that
they have put an enormous amount of time into trying to argue
about, and losing. They haven't provided any evidence that the information is wrong because
they can't. They just expect the readers to believe their casual
statement as if the pearls of wisdom and drips of honesty and
innocence flow from their slippery brows.
Also, when they say that it is
their goal to produce an article on DCS that is "not actively
wrong" they are not telling you that they have always had
the opportunity to modify it, or abbreviate it, or to provide
their own references and comments. However, they chose to delete my contributions
in whole slabs. Also,
since then, they have had the opportunity to present their version
of the topic but refused. They argue that they haven't got time to do a few pages about the topic, yet
they have had the time to do more than 100 pages of criticising.
Furthermore, you also need to
know that they want you to believe that Da Costa's syndrome is
generally regarded as an anxiety or mental disorder. They are
not telling you that they are deleting all significant evidence
of physical cause to give you that impression. By contrast I
have been writing the
whole "history"
of DCS, not just the history of ideas taken from psychology journals,
or journals that have that bias. There have, in fact. been 100
years of heated debates about the cause of DCS, and more than 100 labels and ideas on cause. They are trying
to convince you that my account of the whole history of DCS is
"actively wrong", and that their account of the modern
psychological theories is the only correct way of writing about
the history of the subject.
They are also trying to convince
you that the history of the topic is "cruft" which is their word for too much detail, with
a sweeping broom symbol on the note to carry the dual insult
of rubbish e.g. here
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=208737181&oldid=208705270
. . .
The entire page of information
was then slab deleted by anonymous vandals
shortly afterwards here
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=next&oldid=210262939
. . . and the two editors said that they weren't the anonymous
editors, and that they didn't know who they were, and criticised
me for asking the question, and later argued that I had falsely accused them of using anonymous editors as their
sockpuppets on the RFC page item 3 here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Posturewriter#Evidence_of_disputed_behavior.
My critics described it as cruft
again here
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=next&oldid=212440419
However, they have left the early
discussion from 1863 to 1900 and deleted everything from 1900
to 2008 e.g. here
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=212440419&oldid=211817271
They want you to believe that
their motive was to give the original history a fair showing,
when if fact it is just there as a misleading token, They also
want you to believe that they deleted the information from 1900 onwards because it was a nice rounded date at
the end of the century. In fact they cherrypicked that time because
the next entry referred to the 1916 observations of Sir James
MacKenzie who described the abnormal pooling of blood in the
abdominal and peripheral veins, which results in an inefficient
return of blood to the heart and brain causing problems with
exercise, and tiredness. That is significant information about
the physcial basis of the symptoms which I previously added here
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=211817271&oldid=211269450.
WhatamIdoing does not want you
to know that the whole purpose of the past 100 years of research
was to determine whether the symptoms were real or imaginary,
and physical or mental, and that the real physical basis of most
of the symptoms has already been found.
For example researchers in the
1940's discovered abnormal function of the breathing muscle which
proved that the breathlessness was physical not mental, and "objective"
and not just "subjective". i.e. "real" and not "imaginary" e.g. here
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=186305009&oldid=185756410
WhatamIdoing has selectively
deleted that information several times on the trumped up grounds
that it was "old",
"out-of-date", or "cruft" (rubbish - because it was too much detail
that wasn't necessary or relevent to modern theories, and that
modern readers didn't need to know and wouldn't be interested
in it anyway).
After carefully deleting all
of the scientifically proven evidence of physical cause WhatamIdoing
then replaced it with the modern opinion that DCS is a type of
"somatoform autonomic dysfunction". The word "somatoform"
is generally used as a synonym for "imaginary", and
the term "somatoform autonomic dysfunction" is rarely
used and is "officially" recognised and defined, but
for all other intents and purposes it is generally regarded as
a "wastebasket"
label for patients who
have illnesses that the doctor doesn't understand.
Wikipedia is supposed to be written
in plain
English so that ordinary
people can understand it, and I have previously criticised WhatamIdoing
for trying to bury the subject in jargon. WhatamIdoing lost that
argument, and responded by changing the subject and accusing
me of policy violations. When I asked members of the general
public if they knew the meaning of the term "somatoform
autonomic dysfunction" none of them could tell me.
8. When they say that I have
finally given up getting my name and website into the article
they are trying to create the false illusion that I am trying
hard to add information to Wikipedia for self-promotional purposes
- which I am not.
They have slab deleted all information
about my research and ideas twice in the past, and completely
disregarded all discussion about it. Guido den Broeder told them that there had been no information about
me or my ideas in Wikipedia for six months on a previous COI
page here
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Posturewriter&diff=prev&oldid=225855935,
so they did not have a case of Conflict of Interest against me.
I haven't bothered to replace the information for the past year
because it isn't necessary, and because if I did my two critics
would immediately delete it anyway. I am writing about other
peoples research in the history section etc, all properly supported
by top quality references. Also if I wanted to promote myself
I would have put an identifying photo on the cover, or in the
pages of my 1000 page book, but I didn't. My critics are also
trying
to portray me as a person who gives up easily, when they are actually making a habit of giving
up in all evidence based arguments against me, and resorting to policy, spin and trickery,
and going to as many other discussion pages to get as many of their
friends as possible to help them block me. There is only one of me and they have recruited
at least twenty of their friends to help them win arguments againts
me. I prefer to deal with these things on my own, but they always work as a
team of two and desperately
search far and wide for more help. Also when one of them says
HVS is
ES, and the other says
it isn't, I don't have to argue because they defeat themselves.
Also they started one of the COI pages with the statement "is this close enough
to COI", which means
"No! it is not COI" . . . In order to clarify how absurd
that is I can give you a similar example; They would argue that
you was doing 55 km/hr in a 60 km/hr speed zone, and then ask
the judge if it was close enough to breaking the speed limit
for him you to have your drivers licence suspended for life.
9. When they say that I am violating
COI policy (Conflict
of Interest), they are
not telling you that all information about my ideas was deleted a year
ago, and they are not
mentioning these previous quotes from another editor that can
be seen by scrolling down to the relevant dates here
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard/Archive_24#Da_Costa.27s_syndrome_take_.232
. . . "I don't care
what he may have done half a year ago. He does not need to be
stopped, since he is not promoting anything or adding any original
research to the article now. Guido den Broeder (talk) 17:29,
20 May 2008" . . . and a few days later . . . "I see
nothing in his recent contributions that is related to his personal
theory. Most of these diffs are ancient. Guido den Broeder (talk)
17:24, 20 May 2008".
My critics are telling you that
I am deliberately using Wikipedia to promote myself, when I am repeatedly telling
them that I don't want my name mentioned unless I say so, because I prefer privacy, and they
are using my
name at the top of discussion pages, or deliberately archiving their own page so that my
Wikipedia ID is at the top
e.g. here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:WhatamIdoing/Archive_2#Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment.2FPosturewriter
. . . where all their friends
can see them making personal attacks
on me, and, that placement is an obvious tactic aimed at getting their friends to join in the
criticism. They have mentioned my real name at the top of the
first page of criticism against me, and named my theory, and
linked to my website many more than I have mentioned it myself
e.g. here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard/Archive_24#Da_Costa.27s_syndrome_take_.232
They have taken every opportunity
to induce other editors into demanding that I provide more information
about myself under the
pretense of revealing my COI. It has been obvious to me that
they want to get as much information as possible to harass me.
They then keep up their nonsense arguments which I paraphrase
"See - told ya so, this is just another example of Posturewriter being
"self-identifed"
(with the snide innuendo of - for self-promotion purposes).
Also note that I have told them
before that when they started asking for information about me
the only way of providing it was by placing a new section about
myself of my
own website for them
to see, and when they started deleting the information that I
have provided for Wikipedia, I started putting it onto my website
because I have no intentions of wasting it. I then started adding
full reviews on my website so that I could abbreviate them later
for wikipedia, and they have been arguing that I have been using wikipedia as a
dumping ground for my
reviews.
10. When they say that I am adding
bona fide
references it is true.
All 60
of the references are
in accordance with wikipedia sourcing policy requirements. Most are exceptional quality such
as those of Sir James MacKenzie, and Sir Thomas Lewis who were
knighted
for their contributions to medicine, and Paul Dudley White, and other scholars and
professors
from Harvard Medical school
etc.
However, when they say I am only
using those that support my own views, they are not telling you
that I
added reference to J.M.DaCosta's original research paper called "On Irritable heart", because they didn't, and that they got
their favorite label "Soldiers Heart" from the title
of a childrens fiction novel, and moved it into a position of
prominence at the top of the page by using "hatnote policy"
here
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=215793876&oldid=215793297.
I have added sixty good quality
references from all
types of sources, which
represents all
points of view, and therefore
Neutral
Points of View (NPOV),
and my main critic, WhatamIdoing has only added 12 references
in 12 months, including some which were simple definitions from
dictionaries or websites, and the remaining nine had psychiatric
labels in the name of the article or journal, and represent "extreme
bias", and contain notes which are 'victim blaming exercises", and they exclude the opinion of medical consumers. My critics are brazenly violating NPOV
policy with their twelve cherry picked references, while putting
a spin on their actions by accusing me of violating it when I
used 60 references from all sources, including theirs. For example,
when I saw their link to Oglesby Paul's article in the reference list, I read it, and provided
a one page review of his ten page article about the complex history
of of Da Costa's syndrome, and they deleted it, and replaced
it with one sentence about anxiety here
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=190379699&oldid=190352656
, and they continued to misrepresent the article again six months
later here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Da_Costa%27s_syndrome#Oglesby_Paul
11. When they say that the evidence
that I am providing from history has been superseded, they are trying to hide the fact that the evidence
of history discredits a lot of modern ideas, and they are virtually
trying to convince readers that history can be properly understood
by reading this mornings newspaper. They are also expecting you
to believe that scientific facts that have been erased from history,
or erased from Wikipedia, are no longer scientific facts.
12.They move along to imply that
I am deliberately adding (*gasp* - their word) original research which they describe as a violation of
OR policy (no Orignal Research allowed), and "of course
all of this violates a variety of other policies". What
they don't tell you is that after they deleted reference to my
own research they added 'that they appreciated my other efforts".
They obviously thought that I would not be able to add any more,
so when I added a reference to a 1947 research paper on the proven
physical cause of breathlessness, they accused me of violating
Synthesis policy by adding information that supports my theory.
I provided a reference which stated that breathlessness affected 93% of DCS patients and mentioned the obvious fact that
every person who wrote about DCS would have to mention research
studies related to that symptom, but they simply ignored that
comment and deleted the information anyway. I then waited for
them to add information and references to fill in the gaps in the history from 1863 to 1940, and from 1980 to
2008 but they did nothing. I therefore started. by adding references
from the 1940's and they accused me of deliberately choosing
papers that were old because they supported my theory. They then
"moved
the goalposts" and
said that I must use only "secondary sources" of information which are reviews of research in reputable medical journals.
When I added a 1998 review by Streeton in the Journal of the
American Medical Association, which is the most famous medical
journal in the world, they deleted it because, according to them,
Streeton was not an expert on the topic and it was just an op-ed item (opposite the editorial
page).
They are also not telling you
that when
I read one of the links that they provided I found that it was
an irrelevent children's fiction novel that wasn't suitable according
to WP:MEDRS, and they said that reading it, and then giving my
analysis of it was violating "original research" policy in item 4. here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Posturewriter#Evidence_of_disputed_behavior
. . . What they are essentially saying is that they can put anything
they want on the page and nobody is allowed to criticise it.
They are telling you that I have
violated multiple policies, but what they are not telling you
is that every
time I comply with one policy they find an endless supply of
other policies which
they invent as their excuse to block my contributions, and they
leave comments on policy pages to add or modify Wikipedia policies
to suit the easy banning of SPA's in the future etc etc.
They have also written a lot
of words trying to convince readers that they are policy experts,
and that I have a poor understanding or comprehension of simple
policies, when in fact, I fully understand how they are misrepresenting
policy to deceive people
and to block me. For example when they say repeatedly that I
am violating Medical Sourcing policy by using out-of-date references they are only quoting the main paragraphs
of WP:MEDRS
policy and not directing me or the other editors to paragraphs
further down the policy page which state that older references are
relevant to the history sections of article for OBVIOUS reasons. They even repeat that accusation again
on the POV page with the words that you have just read . . .
"Of course, the condition is entirely superseded, so most of the refs are from before most editors were born"
When they say that I don't understand
the meaning of the word "consensus"
they are not telling you that I studied Group Psychology at tertiary
level for four years, and consensus is a feature of human group
interaction. They are also not telling you that they have been
tag teaming against me as a group of two so that
they can always say that it is two to one againts me, when in
fact it is one tag team against one person, and they frequently
use the word "we" think this and "we" think
that to create the illusion of greater support for their argument
than actually exists. They also don't tell you that when they
lose a case such as COI number one, they start up COI number two with words such as "can we revisit this one" here
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard/Archive_24#Da_Costa.27s_syndrome_take_.232
, and when they lost the
case on the MFD page they say words such as "this failed on procedural
grounds" and go
onto an RFC page, without telling anyone that an editor who keeps
bringing up new cases relentlessly is "forum
shopping" which is a case of them violating guidelines
of conduct, and they don't tell you about the general policy of acceptiing their
defeat and moving on,
instead of persisting
relentlessly until they get the outcome they want. In fact, I have told editors that my
recent banning has been the result of other editors violating RFC closing
policy, and barging in
on an orderly arbitration process to block it, and none of them
has challenged me, presumably because they couldn't. They just
ignore what I have said about them, and they ignore the fact that they have violated
policy by using an administrator
who they call the "cavalry", and ban me anyway.
13.They also falsely say, without
evidence, that I am violating the truth,
however, they are not saying what truth, because I have given
factual and referenced information to Wikipedia which can be
easily verified . . . and after they wrote volumes of words to
convince everyone that I am the publisher of a thousand page
book . . . they have the audacity to tell them that I am WP:COPYVIO
- which means - breaching
my own copyright????
- which is ridiculous.
In fact, at the end of a lengthy
dicussion about the copyright
accusation here
Gordonofcartoon's exact words were "Since your identity
was declared, the copyright issue has always been an irrelevancy",
but they just keep bringing up the same arguments over and over
again without any regard for how many times the subjects have
been discussed before, and that they have lost repeatedly.
Furthermore, when WhatamIdoing
argues that I have violated WP:RS policy
it refers to Wikipedia Reliable Sources of information. What
you were not told is that one of my sources was a Streeton review
from the editorial section of the 1998 edition of the Journal
of the American Medical Association, which WhatamIdoing described
as an 11 year old op-ed piece written by a non-expert on the
topic.
By contrast WhatamIdoing wanted
to give prominence to the label of Soldier's Heart which is one of the many alternative labels for
Da Costa's syndrome. That was achieved by moving a reference
to a book by that title from the end of the Da Costa's page to
the top line where it is the first thing that readers will see
here
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Costa%27s_syndrome&diff=215793876&oldid=215793297.
I therefore read it and found that it was irrelevant, but when
I criticised them for using a Children's fiction novel as a reference
they argued that I didn't understand hat note policy. They argued that hatnote policy was used to to
help the blind and disabled navigate their way through Wikipedia
to find articles with the same title here.
Gordonfcartoon then added, poems, plays, and telemovies with
that title to the linked page. You have also not been told that
the "hatnote" has since been removed by another editor
for being inappropriate and offensive.
Note that my two critics also
know that I am older and more experienced at dealing with controversy
than they are, but they have been choosing their words and using
"spin" in an attempt to create the false impression
that I am younger than they are, and that I have poor comprehension,
and am emotionally fragile, and easily upset. An extreme example
can be seen after I criticised them for using the childrens fiction
novel as a reference for the medical page. Their "spin"
involved making themselves look good by justifying their foolish
actions with hatnote policy, and then they tried to make me look
childlike and emotionally delicate by using the following words
. . . "PW, I just want to add that
I'm sorry you read
that book. Paulsen makes a living
from writing deliberately depressing books to promote his anti-war/anti-military
views. He has a particular talent for sympathetically disgusting
descriptions. I have read about ten of them and only found one
that was worth my time. They are, unfortunately, officially recommended
or required reading in many, many American schools. WhatamIdoing
(talk) 03:06, 30 June 2008 . . .
Note also that they then archived half the page so that their sentence was the last that readers
would see at the end of the first 6 months of discussion. They were obviously attempting to leave
a "lasting" false impression here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Da_Costa%27s_syndrome/Archive_1#Comments_on_the_novel_.E2.80.9CSoldier.E2.80.99s_Heart.E2.80.9D
. . . My final comment is that if my critics were depressed by
reading children's fiction they need to grow up, and if they
are fond of childrens fiction novels they should edit childrens
pages, not medical pages.
14. They then complain that their
existing "Attitude
Readjustment Tools"
can't stop me in Australia, and link the text to a Lart
webpage which refers to new editors as "newbies", and those who are adding information
to Wikipedia which they don't want the readers to see are called
"flame
bait", and then
they add links to "flame wars",
and flame
notices, posters or emails,
where they leave the names of "newbies". so that their
friends will see it. Those friends can then act as "flame throwers" or "cavalry"
by coming from nowhere into an arbitration page and impose instant
blocks under
the presence of being completely independent and uninvolved or
unbiased (to paraphrase
"by the way I just happened to notice this page . . . it
was just a coincidence, honest it was"). Am I supposed to
assume that they are an
eraser gang of juveniles
in adult bodies, or perhaps they are trying to intimidate me
with fairy tales or cryptic innuendo carrying the threat of coming
to my own home to do me harm???? or getting their international
friends to do so!!!!! Am I supposed to hire a bodyguard, or put
a paper mache gnome on the front door mat???? Are they trying
to make me anxious or paranoid, or are they generously giving
me the opportunity of proving that they are a stupid gang of
trolls????
15. The criticism just continues
endlessly with spin after spin, and goes on to say "It's
back at
WP:COI/N for a second go-round"
(it's actually the third time). They are not telling you that
the "Conflict of Interest" page number one failed,
and that my two critics had just lost an argument against me
here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Da_Costa%27s_syndrome/Archive_1#WP:SYNTH.3F
. . . by contradicting
each other about Hyperventilation syndrome and the Effort Syndrome which I explained in the
second comment here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Da_Costa%27s_syndrome/Archive_1#Proposed_page_move
. . . and that neither
of them had read past the first paragraph of Rosen's research
paper on the topic. The
first critic Gordonofcartoon added several hundred words of criticism
to the COI page here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard/Archive_24#Da_Costa.27s_syndrome_take_.232
. . . and then the other critic named WhatamIdoing, who had been
co-operating against me for months comes into the page and says
with words that I paraphrase . . ."by the way, I have been away from Wikpedia for a while and just noticed this
page by sheer coincidence
- does any one mind me adding my 2c worth." . WhatamIdoing
then adds several hundred more words of criticism faster than
I cared to respond to, so I sat back and watched until the dust
settled. After 5000
words of criticism another
editor assumed that there was so much evidence against me that
I could not possibly defend myself and decided that I must have
breached COI. I then spent a week or so preparing a 2500 word
defense from several weeks of notes (i.e. half as many words as my critics) here
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Da_Costa%27s_syndrome/Archive_1#Response_to_5000_words_of_criticism_in_the_twelve_days_between_12-5-08_and_22-5-08 and then, at the end of that essay Gordonofcartoon
added the offensively dismissive remark "please cut this readable
length", indicating
that he had absolutely no intention of reading anything I put
on the discussion page, and later implying that I didn't understand
paragraph for paragraph discussion conventions.
16. In the last paragraph WhatamIdoing
forecasts the intention "to team up with other disgusted editors
to be so mean and rude to the SPA that he leaves in disgust", hence the forum shopping for
help, and the insults continued. However, as I advised them,
I have
had 30 years of experience at dealing with controversial topics and am fully aware that some people
will have strong views and will resort to insults. In Wikipedia
the process of insulting a person for the purpose of making them
leave is called trolling, and is a violation of several policies,
including WP:CIVIL
here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Civility&diff=279120817&oldid=279120346#Engaging_in_incivility.
Finally, when WhatamIdoing (a
hostile critic) refers to my contributions as "nonsense", it needs to be put into context
with an NPOV editors opinion here "To be honest, in my opinion,
it's actually a lot better and far more detailed than the one
that is currently up and I can't find anything which is COI, unsourced (97 different sources quoted!!),
or biased" here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:WhatamIdoing/Archive_2#Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment.2FPosturewriter
Note that my statements about
Da Costa's syndrome were actually based on 60 top quality references that
are all verifiable. Hence,
WhatamIdoing is trying to convince you that highly respected
scientists in the history of research were writing nonesense????
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My second critics remarks;
his ID code is Gordonofcartoon:
Seconded, and an update for general
edification. The
issue has been finally settled (I hope) by an indefinite block. It went to an RFC (which
had a strong consensus, to no effect, that the editor concerned
should edit articles away from pet topic).
The problem trundled on
with continual
griping (invariably lengthy)
on Talk pages while the editor wrote a personal new draft of
the article (critics
unwelcome). Then he chose to put it back against consensus into mainspace. Finally
I raised it at Requests for Arbitration. They were cautiously moving toward accepting
before the cavalry arrived in the form of admins
who were prepared to bring blocks, ultimately an indefinite one
for disruptive
conduct.
This has taken about a year to settle. At one level, I don't blame anyone: it could argued that any particular
report (e.g. at WP:ANI) only sees a snapshot of the situation
and it doesn't look to bad. But on the other hand, the user hasn't been
remotely civil. For six
months, he has openly
flouted WP:AGF and WP:NPA and WP:CIVIL, with an extended userspace
attack on two editors called The Motivations, Strategies, and
Tactics of my Critics, and inflammatory language like editor
X's "web of deceit" and "juvenile duplicity"
and editor Y "swinging through the wiki trees beating his
breast and yelling his typical bark". And yet you get admins
looking at this and saying stuff to the effect of "Oh, I
don't see anything here that really constitutes an attack or
serious incivility."
And that's
not even factoring in the exhausting effect of long-term contact
with procedural nitpicking, obfuscation, lying by misquotation
etc ("user A says
and diff B that my article is wonderful", then you look
at the diff and find it doesn't, or it has been quoted out of
the context of other
editors saying it was crap;
so you say so, and get back 1500 words of WP:SOUP saying why it doesn't mean what it seems
to mean, and how it's just another example of my critics using
their tactics to silence me, and anyhow the procedure wasn't
conducted properly because Bilbo von Booger
who you got banned because he supported my case said at diff
D that ... and
so on and on and on and f***ing f***ing on.
As WhatamIdoing says, we need another solution. Gordonofcartoon
(talk) 16:57, 3
February 2009 (UTC)
MY
RESPONSE TO MY SECOND CRITICS ESSAY
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Gordonofcartoon's Point of View
As
you can determine from the page where I have been falsely accused
of Point of View Pushing, Gordonofcartoon wants to tell lies
about me ten times per minute, and objects to me telling people
the truth about his devious editing once a week.
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These are my words in
black followed by Gordonofcartoons exact words in red |
The
words from WP:CIVIL policy that Gordonofcartoon knowingly, deliberately,
flagrantly, and blatantly flouted and violated (the exact words
of the policy are highlighted in red) |
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His
choice of words to describe my response to criticism as
"continual
griping"
He
said that other editors were saying that my article was
"crap"
He
changed the name of Guido den Broeder (a former chairman of the
Netherlands CFS association) to
Bilbo
von Booger
(In Wikipedia
booger means dried nasal mucus, or snot) here
He
swore with these words
"and
so on and on and on and f***ing f***ing on"
Note:
as an experienced editor he has got no excuse for using any type
of foul language
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"These
behaviors can all contribute to an uncivil environment . . .
Judgmental tone in edit summaries (e.g. "snipped rambling
crap") or talk-page posts ("that is the stupidest thing
I have ever seen") here
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Civility&diff=281340954&oldid=281340907#Engaging_in_incivility
and
Lies,
including deliberately asserting false information on a discussion
page in order to mislead one or more editors. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Civility&diff=281340954&oldid=281340907#Engaging_in_incivility
and
Gross
profanity or indecent suggestions directed at another contributor"
here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Civility&diff=268407672&oldid=268402317#Engaging_in_incivility
and
Insults
and name-calling
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Civility&diff=281340954&oldid=281340907#Engaging_in_incivility
and
"Abusive
swearing - for abuse or intimidation or insulting of others (Example:
You motherfucking son of a bitch! Fuck you)"
here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Profanity&diff=279617571&oldid=279547923#Types_of_swearing
and
Some words by
my other critic WhatamIdoing
when discussing another
contributor
"nor is
it appropriate to call people names.
Please see Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:No personal attacks|no
personal attacks]] policy. Comment on ''content'', not on the contributor; personal
attacks damage the community and deter users. Thank you. <!-- Template:No personal comments
--> [[User:WhatamIdoing| 18:06, 18
May 2000 and amended
at 01:07 on 9-6-09 here
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:WhatamIdoing&diff=prev&oldid=295287217
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Here are some words from Guido den Broeder
about Gordonofcartoon
"I
am now quickly getting the idea that this COI complaint against
Posturewriter has one reason only: to get the opposition against
your own pov out of the way. Guido den Broeder (talk) 07:23,
21 May 2008 (UTC)" here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard/Archive_24#Da_Costa.27s_syndrome_take_.232
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AN
EXAMPLE OF WHATAMIDOING'S UNCIVIL STYLE
WhatamIdoing tried to start an
argument about the correct name or page for the Da Costa's syndrome
article. I responded by suggesting that the current one was the
best and that moving it into another one with a different title
would not be appropriate, but added that I had no objection to
someone else establishing separate pages for the synonyms of
their choice and making articles about them if they wished. (there
have been many different opinions about the nature of the condition,
and therefore many different labels which each have evidence
for and against).
However, WhatamIdoing was not
interested in doing anything constructive, and violated the Wikipedia
policy on Civility by saying that my suggestion was STUPID. To
make the insult more obvious the word STUPID was linked to a
Wikipedia page about low levels of intelligence. Unfortunately
for WhatamIdoing my IQ is at the high level.
Here is a quote from WhatamIdoing's
ill-mannered description of my suggestion . . .
"It would be stupid to create three identical articles,
except changing the name at the top. We could create redirects
for them WhatamIdoing" (talk) 21:33, 15 May 2008
. . . that quote is from the end of the discussion section here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Da_Costa%27s_syndrome/Archive_1#Proposed_page_move
This is a quote from the page
about the word "stupid" being used as an insult . .
. "It is frequently used as a pejorative and consequently
has a negative connotation" here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupidity
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1. My second
critic Gordonofcartoon, comes to this page, not being aware of
just how obvious it is that the two of them (Gordonofcartoon
and WhatamIdoing) have been ganging up on me from the start by
arguing against me as a team. (They started the Da Costa's syndrome
talk page, and added the first two paragraphs of criticism on
21-12 -07 here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Da_Costa%27s_syndrome/Archive_1
. . . and have made more than 95% of the criticism against me
since, and started the final arbitration page against me here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:WhatamIdoing/Archive_2#Requests_for_arbitration_.2F_User:Posturewriter).
This POV page is just another obvious example where they try
to get other editors to believe them with great floods of unreferenced
criticism on a page that they don't think I will notice, and
was not told of, and where they think I won't have the opportunity
to present my side of the story.
WhatamIdoings
comments from last May (2008) escaped my notice until I found
Gordonofcartoon adding comments on this POV page (in January
2009) after I had been banned, and that he assumed I would not
be able to find or respond to. (They often set up new discussion
pages without telling me about them so that decisions will be
made by other editors before I get to give my side of the story
e.g. here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:WhatamIdoing/Archive_2#Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment.2FPosturewriter,
and here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:WhatamIdoing/Sandbox&diff=prev&oldid=243268880)
2. Gordonofcartoon
says that the case is finally settled by me being banned on an
arbitration page where I said that I would prepare my defense
for posting next Sunday. There were about 12 editors voting about
5 to 7 against me when an administrator named Moreschi came in and banned me
on the Thursday. That may or may not be a violation of wiki policy,
but it is a serious violation of normal common sense justice
and fair play, and is essentially a sabotage of the natural course
of justice. (Note that Gordonofcartoon had previously set up
a discussion on the Administrators noticeboard on 25-8-08 where
Moreschi responded to the accusations and I replied. That discussion
didn't go any further, so I assumed that it ended in my favor,
Moreschi had been absent from the discussions ever since, so
I became suspicious of 'behind the scenes' conversations when
he suddenly came to the arbitration page to ban me. Arbitration
decisions should be made by consensus, or by editors who have
had no previous involvement or bias, and if he wanted to dispute
anything about my contributions he should have done so six months
earlier - that dicscussion can be seen here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive469#Disruptive_editor_.2F_RFC_failing_to_resolve
)
3. Gordonofcartoon
also mentions the RFC which is a "Request For Comments"
page about me. I notified the editors that I would spend a few
weeks preparing a subpage for them to consider, and after about
a week another editor named Wizardman came to the page and closed
it with comments that I must restrict my contributions to non-DaCosta
pages, which Gordonofcartoon refers to derisively as my "PET"
topic. According to wikipedia policy, which I checked before
starting the subpage, an RFC cannot be closed while contributors are still
trying to solve the dispute, and an editor does not have any real authority
to impose sanctions. On other pages WhatamIdoing was encouraging
editors to pretend that they had authority, and within two days
of closing the RFC, my critic WhatamIdoing went to Wizardmans
page and awarded him a barnstar for help with "closures
of RFC's" in the past few months. I checked and there were
no other closures that I could see.
4. When Gordonofcartoon
refers to "continual griping" invariably lengthy, you
need to understand that he is choosing those words to create
a false derogatory impression of my comments which were generally
matter-of-fact and objective. He also isn't telling you the facts.
I have not one, but two critics working against me who, in my
opinion, are trying to drown my truths with great volumes of
critcism, often several times a day. After they have argued throughout
the week, I generally respond on a Sunday, although sometimes
their comments require me to reply immediately or mid week. You
need to also consider that most of the time I have simply been
adding more information to comply with each new sourcing policy
that they require me to meet, and they whinge or gripe about
it because they don't want me adding anything.
5. When he says
that I prepared "a personal new draft (critics unwelcome)" he is again misrepresenting the
facts. There were actually two neutral editors who came to the
RFC so I tried to get them to act as policy referees. When they
suggested that both parties (me and the tag team) should set
up subpages and do versions of the DaCosta's page without interference,
I agreed, but Gordonofcartoon snubbed the idea (because he didn't
have enough knowledge to do a page), and WhatamIdoing cut and
pasted my page and subjected it to 80 points of merciless criticism
(nitpicking). It was never intended for me to invite those obvious
opponents to my subpage or vice versa. They were to be compiled
independently so that good pages could be put together without
interference or disruption, and I invited "neutral"
editors to assist me put the page together in compliance with
policy e.g. here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SmokeyJoe#Regarding_the_Da_Costa.27s_syndrome_subpage.
When I had finished it another editor named Avnjay described
it as "honestly" much better than the existing page
with no evidence of COI etc here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:WhatamIdoing/Archive_2#Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment.2FPosturewriter
WhatamIdoing
immediately responded with another relentless barrage of nitpicking
which went on for a month, not only criticising me, but also
embarrassing
the other editors by describing them as not being experts on
the topic
and not understanding it, until, as usual, the other editors
started agreeing with them. Note that those editors were invited
to assess NPOV, and MEDRS, and Verifiability etc, and one of
them did, and he agreed with me. WhatamIdoing changed the courteous
and orderly discussion into an opportunity to ridicule me, and
to turn it into a content dispute, and spent several weeks misrepresenting
my comments and taking my words out of context to deceive the
other editors into believing that my subpage was wrong.
6. When Gordonofcartoon
said that I put
it back into mainspace he means that I replaced the existing Da Costa
page with what Avnjay described as a "much better one",
and when he says that I did it against consensus he is not telling
you that I was the only one to do a subpage. You need to also
consider that I sent messages to both of the NPOV editors to
do it for me and one of them didn't reply for months, and the
other one made indirect comments elsewhere that "silence
is consensus" and "be bold". I also left a message
on the "Editors Assistance" page asking for a neutral
editor to replace the existing page with my subpage but no-one
agreed, or disagreed for about a month, so I replaced it myself.
My critics deleted it, I replaced it, etc, and they blocked me
for being disruptive by replacing the older page with a better
one. (They misrepresented the three revert rule (3RR) to accuse
me of it, and they used careful timing and teaming to avoid that
rule themselves).
7. When Gordonofcartoon
said that "he" raised it on an arbitration page (on Monday 26-1-09), and later that they
were cautiously moving towards accepting, he is referring to
the fact that he set up an arbitration page to discuss having
me banned from adding information to the Da Costa page. At that
stage the outcome was five editors in favor of me, to seven against.
You can also notice that at 8:37 on Tuesday 27-1-09 I gave an initial response to the criticism
and told the arbitrators that I would be happy to present a fuller
response on the following Sunday, unless requested to do so earlier.
Within 24 hours WhatamIdoing presented a large essay of misleading
criticism (at
20:25 on Tuesday 27-1-09) and knew that if I had the opportunity to respond
to it I could have easily done so. (I mention that because it
is the backgound circumstantses for Moreschi's urgent decision
to ban me on Wednesday
28-1-09).
It is obvious that they tried their hardest to ban me before
Sunday
1-2-09
because they knew that they had lost almost every previous argument
against me, and didn't want to take any chances of me winning
again. When Gordonofcartoon says that "the "cavalry"!!!!!
arrived
in the form of admins who were prepared to
block" he means Moreschi, who is only one of
the admins who suddenly interupted the orderly discussion
of the other arbitrators and banned me on Wednesday here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration&diff=prev&oldid=266981397#Comment_from_Moreschi
. . . before I was due to give my defense on Sunday. (Note that when they
say that "the cavalry arrived???? - they are referring to "their cavalry" - part of an organised
group - in a flame war??? - and they accused me of being "disruptive",
and starting an edit war?????). The only question here is did
Moreschi know all the facts, and that he was the cavalry, or
had he been misled into acting as the cavalry re; was he an outsider
who believed all of their insulting remarks about me, and did
he ban me without properly investigating the facts????
When Gordonofscartoon
says that I was blocked for disruptive conduct he is not telling
you that I was doing everything I could to comply with process
and policy, and that they were using every policy and process
that they could find to disrupt my opportunity to present my
side of the story.
You can see the
arbitrtion process, and each persons comments by scrolling down
the page here
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration&diff=prev&oldid=266981397#User:Posturewriter
8. When Gordonofcartoon
says that the process took a year to settle he is referring to
the fact that he tried multiple items of jargon as a ruse hoping
to confuse me, and multiple policy reasons to disrupt my contributions,
and went to multiple forums to get help because both of my critics
working as a team were losing every argument for a year e.g.
here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Da_Costa%27s_syndrome/Archive_1
and here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Da_Costa%27s_syndrome,
and they have finally blocked me by subverting two processes,
namely the RFC which was closed while still active, and Arbitration
which was closed by one admin before I was to present my defense.
9. When he says
he "doesn't blame anyone" he is trying to convince
you that he didn't care but that many other editors were losing
their patience and their tempers, when, in fact, the other editors
only showed the normal casual interest that you would expect
from neutral uninvolved participants in an arbitration process,
but Gordonofcartoon was losing his temper and resorting to foul
language. He is using that choice of words to downplay his own
involvement, and divert attention away from the fact that he
tried his hardest to disrupt me for a year with his tag team
mate.
10. When he says
that a snapshot of any period in the past "doesn't look too bad" he is trying to give
the impression that what looks "matter of fact", and
"courteous", is not to be believed, because he wants
you to believe that I have been violating AGF. In fact I was
being courteous despite the criticism. Also, AGF means "Assume
Good Faith" in other editors, which I did for a few months
until it became obvious that "they were not acting in good
faith", and according to Wikipolicy you don't have to keep
assuming good faith in people who give evidence that they don't
deserve it. (i.e. you don't have to be so naive that you will
assume good faith in a bank robber with a bag of cash when he
says that the nice bank teller gave it to him for his birthday).
Also, despite the fact that I stopped assuming good faith in
them, I continued to treat them with courtesy because Wikipedia
policy requires it.
Furthermore the
idea that all new contributors should assume good faith in everyone
else is a good idea for f | |